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........like I've said in an earlier post here, the fact that the wings where torn off most likely saved their lives to some degree by taking some of the energy out of the A/C during the impact sequence.
Given the right circumstances all aircraft have a "wing removal feature/s" (as well as other bits & pieces on the airframe) this can be achieved by making the little 'speedo' needle go well beyond that little red line on the guage, the VNE line meaning "Vertical Never Ending"
. Doing this (providing you have enough height) will remove (as well as the offending wing/s) any doubt about what's left upon impact !
Funny to read what folks say here, if there is a 'lever' to remove said wings then am glad I don't know where it is !
Capt Wally :-)
Given the right circumstances all aircraft have a "wing removal feature/s" (as well as other bits & pieces on the airframe) this can be achieved by making the little 'speedo' needle go well beyond that little red line on the guage, the VNE line meaning "Vertical Never Ending"
. Doing this (providing you have enough height) will remove (as well as the offending wing/s) any doubt about what's left upon impact !Funny to read what folks say here, if there is a 'lever' to remove said wings then am glad I don't know where it is !
Capt Wally :-)
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yet whenever they are pressured regarding poor reporting and mistakes, journalists are adamant that they check their facts with at least 2 independent sources or other forms of cooroborration.
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Clearing Up
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Righto I've just created an account so I can just clear up any errors...
Firsty I used to fly VH-JDI, otherwise known as the plane that crashed today, I can tell everyone that there is no such thing as "detachable wings", there is no button/lever/switch/pin/etc to disconnect the wings from the aircraft.
Under my understanding, (I trained in JDI fairly recently, with Peter Bini Adv Flight Training until their takeover), the pilot executed a textbook emergency landing, he even managed to call a mayday, which was tracked.
The main thing is that he managed to get all occupants out with out substantially harming them and himself.
Under my knowledge it is best to use the wings to slow the aircraft down once the craft has entered known terrain, using the fuselage is effective only if you are intending to harm yourself...i.e. use the wings to slow the plane.
Unfortunately the pilot did not quite make it too the golf course, perhaps he did hit the power lines, I'm not sure but I know power lines are incredibly hard to see against the ground due to lack of contrast. So if he did hit power lines that would probably explain why the wings are 20m behind.
It's an unfortunate loss-I loved flying that little plane, sure it was old (it was made in '74, I think, but it had comfy seats and the old style dash [I fly the newer C172S glass cockpit now])...
Cheers,
Jeremy
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Righto I've just created an account so I can just clear up any errors...
Firsty I used to fly VH-JDI, otherwise known as the plane that crashed today, I can tell everyone that there is no such thing as "detachable wings", there is no button/lever/switch/pin/etc to disconnect the wings from the aircraft.
Under my understanding, (I trained in JDI fairly recently, with Peter Bini Adv Flight Training until their takeover), the pilot executed a textbook emergency landing, he even managed to call a mayday, which was tracked.
The main thing is that he managed to get all occupants out with out substantially harming them and himself.
Under my knowledge it is best to use the wings to slow the aircraft down once the craft has entered known terrain, using the fuselage is effective only if you are intending to harm yourself...i.e. use the wings to slow the plane.
Unfortunately the pilot did not quite make it too the golf course, perhaps he did hit the power lines, I'm not sure but I know power lines are incredibly hard to see against the ground due to lack of contrast. So if he did hit power lines that would probably explain why the wings are 20m behind.
It's an unfortunate loss-I loved flying that little plane, sure it was old (it was made in '74, I think, but it had comfy seats and the old style dash [I fly the newer C172S glass cockpit now])...
Cheers,
Jeremy
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why doesn't someone make a meaningful comment instead of bagging the media. Of course the media is wrong... as the are every day... you just only realize it when its about something you understand...
Where are the comments about the nose wheel lock that that was pictured up on the dash? (Herald Sun maybe... can't remember) lucky that didn't hit anyone...
Where are the comments about the nose wheel lock that that was pictured up on the dash? (Herald Sun maybe... can't remember) lucky that didn't hit anyone...
Maybe he tried to put it on to prevent any terrorists stealing the aeroplane, ....
No doubt if DOTARS saw it without a chock lock there'd be a fine in the mail. Hey, they tried to argue that an aircraft with half the wing missing and the engine pulled the pieces, while inside a hangar, should have a chock lock, so why not one that's just crashed.....??
....No doubt if DOTARS saw it without a chock lock there'd be a fine in the mail. Hey, they tried to argue that an aircraft with half the wing missing and the engine pulled the pieces, while inside a hangar, should have a chock lock, so why not one that's just crashed.....??
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................yes crazy Morno, DOTARS have little idea of anything !
Cop this. I've seen A/C with just a pair of metal chocks chained together with a padlock around the front nosewheel only. That's acceptable for the security of a plane. You only have to rotate the chocks complete with chain 90 deg's & taxi over the chain !!!! God the boffins must have shinny seats !
Capt Wally :-)
Cop this. I've seen A/C with just a pair of metal chocks chained together with a padlock around the front nosewheel only. That's acceptable for the security of a plane. You only have to rotate the chocks complete with chain 90 deg's & taxi over the chain !!!!
God the boffins must have shinny seats !Capt Wally :-)
