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No need to be an a%$#hole Max. Its a simple question, you either know something or not.
By all means give your opinion on the rumour but there is no need to be derogatory to the author. Maybe you are aspiring to a QF management position and are just practicing??
By all means give your opinion on the rumour but there is no need to be derogatory to the author. Maybe you are aspiring to a QF management position and are just practicing??
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Max QF love your work, Keep the faint hearted out....
While we are shooting from the hip .....
Why would a LCC buy a an A321.
Because the A321 has extra "A" type doors these aircraft need to be manned by additional cabin crew, I am sure I will be corrected but I think a A321 needs at least 6 or 7 cabin crew to man it versus the normal 3-4 when you have the standard pax operated over wing escape exits...
From memory employing extra staff per aircraft is never been the operational model for the LCC.
I await the lambasting
While we are shooting from the hip .....
Why would a LCC buy a an A321.
Because the A321 has extra "A" type doors these aircraft need to be manned by additional cabin crew, I am sure I will be corrected but I think a A321 needs at least 6 or 7 cabin crew to man it versus the normal 3-4 when you have the standard pax operated over wing escape exits...
From memory employing extra staff per aircraft is never been the operational model for the LCC.
I await the lambasting
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At the end of March they were 320s
Qantas Airways said today it would acquire nine additional Airbus A320 aircraft for use by Jetstar.
The Chief Executive Officer of Qantas, Mr Geoff Dixon, said the new aircraft would be deployed on domestic and short-haul international routes.
"The aircraft will be delivered over a 15-month timeframe from late 2007," he said.
But that was then
Qantas Airways said today it would acquire nine additional Airbus A320 aircraft for use by Jetstar.
The Chief Executive Officer of Qantas, Mr Geoff Dixon, said the new aircraft would be deployed on domestic and short-haul international routes.
"The aircraft will be delivered over a 15-month timeframe from late 2007," he said.
But that was then
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McBolty,
With JQ now able to operate the 320's with 4 crew as opposed to 5 there will be extra crew surplus so to speak so I guess that could fill the void.
1 crew member per 50 pax on the 320 is 4 crew.
1 crew member per 50 pax on the 321 is 5 crew.
But I could be wrong. I am just a pretty air hostess after all,
With JQ now able to operate the 320's with 4 crew as opposed to 5 there will be extra crew surplus so to speak so I guess that could fill the void.
1 crew member per 50 pax on the 320 is 4 crew.
1 crew member per 50 pax on the 321 is 5 crew.
But I could be wrong. I am just a pretty air hostess after all,
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1 crew member per 50 pax on the 320 is 4 crew.
1 crew member per 50 pax on the 321 is 5 crew.
1 crew member per 50 pax on the 321 is 5 crew.
My point revolves around the type of door. The doors fitted to a A321 need to be operated by CC during an emergency egress unlike the the overwing exits on a A320 which are opened by adjacent pax.
This means min of 6 - 7 CC per A321
Wod
I am with you, I also heard in june the new aircraft will be A320 but happy to be corrected...
Below is a list of all the A321 operators. If you look, non listed are the big profit LCCs with a smattering of holiday charter ailines and the rest are "legacy carriers".
Not sure what Jet * would gain by operating this type...
Aer Lingus, Aero Flight, Aeroflot, Aigle Azur, Air Cairo, Aer Lingus, Air France, Air Ivoire, Air Jamaica, Air Macau, Air Méditerranée, Alitalia, All Nippon Airways (ANA), Asiana Airlines, Austrian Airlines, Blue Wings, BMED, bmi British Midland, British Airways, China Eastern, China Northern, China Southern, CSA Czech Airlines, Dragonair, Egypt Air, Finnair, First Choice Airways, GB Airways, Iberia, KTHY Kibris Türk Hava Yollary, Livingston Energy Flight, LTE International Airways, LTU, Lufthansa, Middle East Airlines (MEA), Monarch Airlines, MyTravel Airways, MyTravel Airways AS, Niki, Nouvelair, Novair, Onur Air, Qatar Airways, Royal Air Maroc (RAM), Royal Jordanian, Scandanavian Airlines (SAS), Sichuan Airlines, Spanair, Spirit Airlines, Swiss International Airways, TACA International Airlines, TAP Air Portugal, THY Turkish Airlines, TransAsia Airways, US Airways, Vietnam Airlines, Volar Airlines
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I'm probably stating the obvious but additional capacity combined with cockpit/systems commonality is the only benefit of a Jetstar A321. With additional A320s coming online and no airport in oz at a capacity pinch like we see in Europe and the US, I really can't see how it can be justified, especially if that crew issue is true!
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The LCC model favours one variant of one type - ie. only 738, or 737, or A319, or A320 - all with only ONE config. That way, your other systems are kept very simple - you always know what the cost of operating every single flight is, you don't have to worry about changing crew numbers to operate different a/c, etc. Then you manage your demand by having a dynamic yield management system which changes fares as demand changes.
So logic suggests that a real LCC would not go for even a different variant of what they operate.
So it'd be illogical for JQ to get 321s.
So it's probably a dead-cert, then...
So logic suggests that a real LCC would not go for even a different variant of what they operate.
So it'd be illogical for JQ to get 321s.
So it's probably a dead-cert, then...
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Airline like Southwest (classic & NG) Ryanair (732/738), Jetblue (EMB/A320), Easyjet (A319/737-700 and soon to be 320/321) & Air Berlin (F100, A32x) all deemed to be LCC's have all operated more than one type int heir fleet at the same time.