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Old 24th Oct 2007, 12:58
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Jetstar A321

I heard that Jetstar might be looking at getting 6 A321s. Can anyone shed some light on this?
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Old 24th Oct 2007, 15:06
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yeah my mum said similar..apparently at 19 i knew everything too
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Old 24th Oct 2007, 20:56
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No need to be an a%$#hole Max. Its a simple question, you either know something or not.

By all means give your opinion on the rumour but there is no need to be derogatory to the author. Maybe you are aspiring to a QF management position and are just practicing??
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Old 24th Oct 2007, 22:42
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Alex - I heard the same and have heard for about 3 years now. If anyone has any goss let us know.

Max qf, i guess the one thing you didn't learn was manners!
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Old 24th Oct 2007, 22:49
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Max, that was totally uncalled for. He asked a simple question, he deserves an apology.
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confirmed (apparently)... fuelers just received the how to from the company....
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 02:57
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Any idea on a delivery date Bula
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 03:12
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Sure they are not for Sunnies?
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 05:47
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Confirmed.......

they should start arriving next year!!!....

another 27 commands advertised today!!
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 06:02
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Max QF love your work, Keep the faint hearted out....

While we are shooting from the hip .....

Why would a LCC buy a an A321.
Because the A321 has extra "A" type doors these aircraft need to be manned by additional cabin crew, I am sure I will be corrected but I think a A321 needs at least 6 or 7 cabin crew to man it versus the normal 3-4 when you have the standard pax operated over wing escape exits...
From memory employing extra staff per aircraft is never been the operational model for the LCC.

I await the lambasting
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 06:31
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At the end of March they were 320s

Qantas Airways said today it would acquire nine additional Airbus A320 aircraft for use by Jetstar.
The Chief Executive Officer of Qantas, Mr Geoff Dixon, said the new aircraft would be deployed on domestic and short-haul international routes.
"The aircraft will be delivered over a 15-month timeframe from late 2007," he said.

But that was then
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 06:54
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McBolty,
With JQ now able to operate the 320's with 4 crew as opposed to 5 there will be extra crew surplus so to speak so I guess that could fill the void.

1 crew member per 50 pax on the 320 is 4 crew.
1 crew member per 50 pax on the 321 is 5 crew.

But I could be wrong. I am just a pretty air hostess after all,
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 07:01
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JQ Gold Coast Base

Has anyone heard anything more on a possible JQ Gold Coast Base or do they already have one there?
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 07:07
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already...bris/gc combined......

perth base opening very soon.......(on bid forms)
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 07:19
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1 crew member per 50 pax on the 320 is 4 crew.
1 crew member per 50 pax on the 321 is 5 crew.
Thanks Pattystacker, I am all for any comments from pretty hostess's

My point revolves around the type of door. The doors fitted to a A321 need to be operated by CC during an emergency egress unlike the the overwing exits on a A320 which are opened by adjacent pax.
This means min of 6 - 7 CC per A321

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I am with you, I also heard in june the new aircraft will be A320 but happy to be corrected...

Below is a list of all the A321 operators. If you look, non listed are the big profit LCCs with a smattering of holiday charter ailines and the rest are "legacy carriers".

Not sure what Jet * would gain by operating this type...


Aer Lingus, Aero Flight, Aeroflot, Aigle Azur, Air Cairo, Aer Lingus, Air France, Air Ivoire, Air Jamaica, Air Macau, Air Méditerranée, Alitalia, All Nippon Airways (ANA), Asiana Airlines, Austrian Airlines, Blue Wings, BMED, bmi British Midland, British Airways, China Eastern, China Northern, China Southern, CSA Czech Airlines, Dragonair, Egypt Air, Finnair, First Choice Airways, GB Airways, Iberia, KTHY Kibris Türk Hava Yollary, Livingston Energy Flight, LTE International Airways, LTU, Lufthansa, Middle East Airlines (MEA), Monarch Airlines, MyTravel Airways, MyTravel Airways AS, Niki, Nouvelair, Novair, Onur Air, Qatar Airways, Royal Air Maroc (RAM), Royal Jordanian, Scandanavian Airlines (SAS), Sichuan Airlines, Spanair, Spirit Airlines, Swiss International Airways, TACA International Airlines, TAP Air Portugal, THY Turkish Airlines, TransAsia Airways, US Airways, Vietnam Airlines, Volar Airlines

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Old 25th Oct 2007, 07:40
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I'm probably stating the obvious but additional capacity combined with cockpit/systems commonality is the only benefit of a Jetstar A321. With additional A320s coming online and no airport in oz at a capacity pinch like we see in Europe and the US, I really can't see how it can be justified, especially if that crew issue is true!
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 08:00
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QF, JQ and the Bus has been a stuff up from the start. Why change directions now.
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 08:46
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Qantas management bashing square pegs into round holes.........
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 10:59
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The LCC model favours one variant of one type - ie. only 738, or 737, or A319, or A320 - all with only ONE config. That way, your other systems are kept very simple - you always know what the cost of operating every single flight is, you don't have to worry about changing crew numbers to operate different a/c, etc. Then you manage your demand by having a dynamic yield management system which changes fares as demand changes.

So logic suggests that a real LCC would not go for even a different variant of what they operate.

So it'd be illogical for JQ to get 321s.

So it's probably a dead-cert, then...
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Old 25th Oct 2007, 21:49
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Airline like Southwest (classic & NG) Ryanair (732/738), Jetblue (EMB/A320), Easyjet (A319/737-700 and soon to be 320/321) & Air Berlin (F100, A32x) all deemed to be LCC's have all operated more than one type int heir fleet at the same time.
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