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When I said fatties it was from my observation of a candidate that made it through. The MAM site says that you MUST be fit and healthy. Obviously with a beer gut it ISN'T fit and healthy is it as many of the other recruitment hopefull's noted aswell. I did not make positive or negative reference to Lisa Robertson, just a note that she was a MAM employee.
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No doubt that there are many excellent casuals who are very good at what they do.
However as a general rule in life you get what you pay for !!!!!!
However as a general rule in life you get what you pay for !!!!!!
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hey!
hey smartalec888
Thanks SO much for posting that info! I've been waiting to hear from somebody who went to the Brisbane MAM recruitment day. I only did my application about 2 weeks ago and had said no to both RSA and First Aid certificate as I haven't got those yet. I'm doing those in the next couple of weeks. According to your post, would this be the main reason I wasn't invited? Or do they look at other things (I'm 19)?
It seems strange they didn't invite the people who looked like they'd fit the role. I wonder what's going on..
I agree a beer gut is not fit and healthy!
Does that mean 10/36 were selected each day? I'm guessing thats 20 in total to interviews and they cut that back maybe by another 10?
With regards to the roleplay with the Qantas FA, were you a passenger?? Don't mean to ask you to give us details, but I didnt realise an FA would be there! I thought you'd have to pretend to be a flight attendant.
Thanks SO much!
Hiflying
PS - August and December for recruitment on MAM?! Then I'll just make sure I got all my documents ready for then.
Thanks SO much for posting that info! I've been waiting to hear from somebody who went to the Brisbane MAM recruitment day. I only did my application about 2 weeks ago and had said no to both RSA and First Aid certificate as I haven't got those yet. I'm doing those in the next couple of weeks. According to your post, would this be the main reason I wasn't invited? Or do they look at other things (I'm 19)?
It seems strange they didn't invite the people who looked like they'd fit the role. I wonder what's going on..
I agree a beer gut is not fit and healthy!
Does that mean 10/36 were selected each day? I'm guessing thats 20 in total to interviews and they cut that back maybe by another 10?
With regards to the roleplay with the Qantas FA, were you a passenger?? Don't mean to ask you to give us details, but I didnt realise an FA would be there! I thought you'd have to pretend to be a flight attendant.
Thanks SO much!
Hiflying
PS - August and December for recruitment on MAM?! Then I'll just make sure I got all my documents ready for then.
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Just to make some things clear.
Lisa learnt all she knew whilst working in LH (Jet Connect) and MAM do get access to the Staff Credit Union.
Recruitment is done by both MAM and QF - with QF having the final say.
Compared to a few years ago, the bar has dropped when calculating the applicants scores.
Hourly rate is now just under $28/hr.
It is a good summer job now!
Recruitment is done by both MAM and QF - with QF having the final say.
Compared to a few years ago, the bar has dropped when calculating the applicants scores.
Hourly rate is now just under $28/hr.
It is a good summer job now!
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Wasn't rays girl one of them offered a job in the land of the long white cloud after she was one of the strike breakers in sydney?
also wasn't it run by addecco then?
she was supposed to have a bit of a colourfull history there too but i reckon she was sorted out a long time before that.
also wasn't it run by addecco then?
she was supposed to have a bit of a colourfull history there too but i reckon she was sorted out a long time before that.
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I do agree with some of the previous posts.It make no difference if a little overweight,older,younger,male female etc however the standard of many new crew has noticably dropped. Certainly because all positions offered are casual and many quality applicants that would have applied previously are no longer interested.
Communication skills,a love of working with people and working in a team enviroment are areas that many new crew are lacking. I think also many are far too young and have yet to develop the skills required to handle many situations on board an aircraft [ especially in J/C on international sectors] where pax have spent thousands of dollars.
Not to say all full time crew are the cream of the crop either but sadly the bar is now much lower.
In saying this many new crew are fantastic and a joy to work with. Apoligies if my comments offend anyone.
Communication skills,a love of working with people and working in a team enviroment are areas that many new crew are lacking. I think also many are far too young and have yet to develop the skills required to handle many situations on board an aircraft [ especially in J/C on international sectors] where pax have spent thousands of dollars.
Not to say all full time crew are the cream of the crop either but sadly the bar is now much lower.
In saying this many new crew are fantastic and a joy to work with. Apoligies if my comments offend anyone.
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mmm.....
Longhaul CSMs are being shown a document marked "confidential, not to be copied" indicating that international Y/C and J/C passenger satisfaction levels are on the slide.
Can't for the life of me imagine why they would be showing it to us. It's almost as if management think we are responsible or are in a position to do something about it.
Can they be that stupid??
Longhaul CSMs are being shown a document marked "confidential, not to be copied" indicating that international Y/C and J/C passenger satisfaction levels are on the slide.
Can't for the life of me imagine why they would be showing it to us. It's almost as if management think we are responsible or are in a position to do something about it.
Can they be that stupid??
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Let me just explain something. If you're going to become a f/a you HAVE to be fit and healthy. I have no problem with extra bodyfat but when it comes to levels of bodyfat that this porker had, many would have turned their heads. It wasn't just a few too many Christmas puddings either, it was VERY noitceable, infact I'm sure his BMI would be overweight boardiering on obese. I'm sure many of you would have turned your heads at him when he progressed through. I'm not sounding bitter just stating the FACTS.
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mmmm.....
The 300 series Jumbos are 20 odd years old and some of our first 400s whilst younger have more hours/cycles.
We currently have 30 747s and on average their crew complement is 15 cabin crew.
Rumours suggest that the 20 A380s on order will have 21 crew so you could [simplistically] argue that QF will need to double their longhaul crew member numbers to crew the fleet.
However......
Plenty in the know suggest that many of the A380s will end up being replacement aircraft for the [many?] 747s that management plan to retire.
If the APA deal gets up they plan to rip AUD $4.5 billion out of the business in the first year to pay themselves and many suggest that they will sell aircraft order slots to fund this.
There will be no longer any enforceable cap on overseas base numbers at the end of our EBA thanks to little johnnies work [no] choices legislation.
Maybe they will give the A380 to shorthaul/MAM?
At the end of the day no one really knows.
The only definate is that business and QF in particular will be no less greedy, immoral, corrupt and completely lacking in social conscience.
Much will depend on the Federal election.
The 300 series Jumbos are 20 odd years old and some of our first 400s whilst younger have more hours/cycles.
We currently have 30 747s and on average their crew complement is 15 cabin crew.
Rumours suggest that the 20 A380s on order will have 21 crew so you could [simplistically] argue that QF will need to double their longhaul crew member numbers to crew the fleet.
However......
Plenty in the know suggest that many of the A380s will end up being replacement aircraft for the [many?] 747s that management plan to retire.
If the APA deal gets up they plan to rip AUD $4.5 billion out of the business in the first year to pay themselves and many suggest that they will sell aircraft order slots to fund this.
There will be no longer any enforceable cap on overseas base numbers at the end of our EBA thanks to little johnnies work [no] choices legislation.
Maybe they will give the A380 to shorthaul/MAM?
At the end of the day no one really knows.
The only definate is that business and QF in particular will be no less greedy, immoral, corrupt and completely lacking in social conscience.
Much will depend on the Federal election.
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Dedicated crew???
Yes, longhaul management [cough] are making noises about it.
The introduction of the 747 200s into our fleet in the 70s saw this as a reality.
QF trained up a dedicated crew initially for it's introduction but once the fleet numbers grew all were trained and eventually operated on it.
I personally expect the same to apply.
There are massive [management] egos riding on a smooth introduction of the A380 and they will want experienced and competant crew to operate it.
They also want to use it as a vehicle to drive down pay and conditions for those who operate it and overtime seems to be what they want.
At the moment Longhaul crew earn overtime after 12 hours and my sources suggest they want this abolished on this aircraft. A "reward" I suppose for being a guinea pig.
Friends have been asked if they would be prepared to operate on it.
The smart ones say that they will wait to see the terms and conditions........
What is going to be really funny are the people who will end up being the "chosen" ones. In typical QF fashion they will select "ideologically" suitable people. This personality type is often distatefully known as, the "brown noser".
This individual is weak [and cunning] and inhabits most busineses and we certainly have our share.
They piss in all the right pockets and make all the right noises but put them on an aircraft and inevitably all hell breaks loose.
They are great at "parroting" rules, regulations, proceedures, service flows, uniform standards and the like but they lack common sense, people management skills, operational knowledge, confidence or integrity.
Funny that so many of this type seem to have "excel badges" but that is another story........
I can hardly wait. Watching it all is going to be such great sport.
The introduction of the 747 200s into our fleet in the 70s saw this as a reality.
QF trained up a dedicated crew initially for it's introduction but once the fleet numbers grew all were trained and eventually operated on it.
I personally expect the same to apply.
There are massive [management] egos riding on a smooth introduction of the A380 and they will want experienced and competant crew to operate it.
They also want to use it as a vehicle to drive down pay and conditions for those who operate it and overtime seems to be what they want.
At the moment Longhaul crew earn overtime after 12 hours and my sources suggest they want this abolished on this aircraft. A "reward" I suppose for being a guinea pig
.Friends have been asked if they would be prepared to operate on it.
The smart ones say that they will wait to see the terms and conditions........
What is going to be really funny are the people who will end up being the "chosen" ones. In typical QF fashion they will select "ideologically" suitable people. This personality type is often distatefully known as, the "brown noser".
This individual is weak [and cunning] and inhabits most busineses and we certainly have our share.
They piss in all the right pockets and make all the right noises but put them on an aircraft and inevitably all hell breaks loose.
They are great at "parroting" rules, regulations, proceedures, service flows, uniform standards and the like but they lack common sense, people management skills, operational knowledge, confidence or integrity.
Funny that so many of this type seem to have "excel badges" but that is another story........
I can hardly wait. Watching it all is going to be such great sport.
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10/10 post inspires me and helps me cause its true true true great culture at times is it not...im so glad some other person has a similar view and experience thks speedingbirdhouse gigs.