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Old 13th Jun 2012, 03:27
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I think his patter is quite good and a very calm demeanour
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Old 13th Jun 2012, 03:34
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Nice vid.... and the instructor indeed keeps very calm... and so he should, there's nothing to worry about, as he demonstrates an effortless recovery, and also talks the student through her own recovery.

IMHO more pilots should avail themselves of a spin course (if it's not mandatory in your jurisdiction... is it anywhere?) and aerobatic course so that they are more capable of dealing with an "upset" should one occur.
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Old 13th Jun 2012, 03:43
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Agree The difference in confidence is huge after doing an aeros course.
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Old 13th Jun 2012, 05:26
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What aircraft?

Never seen an aeroplane where the engine stopping was a normal feature of the spin
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Old 13th Jun 2012, 05:30
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Youve never spun a C150A then. I seem to recall it happening frequently.
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Spun C150/152s a LOT and never saw it happen. In fact I had an incident in a C150 where it wouldn't initially recover and we spun from 4000' to something just under 500'...the engine never stopped.

Nor do I remember being briefed when I initially did spin training on my 3rd lesson (C152), and years later for my Instructor Rating spin approval, that I should expect it. Having said that I did the latter in a Traumahawk.

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Old 13th Jun 2012, 05:39
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It's an Alpha (or Robin if French built), and the engine seems to stop most times when spinning to the left.
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Very interesting
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Old 13th Jun 2012, 05:58
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yep, its an Alpha 160
The previous lesson was forced landings using the Funnel technique. very simple and easy technique to learn, and gets you down on the spot every time.

reason for this lesson before spinning is that there is a chance the engine will stop in a carby aircraft if you spin long enough. in the alpha/robin, almost every time.

i find it sad, that a LOT, well, almost all of vids on Youtube that show someone spinning an aircraft, is that its almost never a fully developed stable spin. and only a few turns at most. most so far in my training is 30 turns.

oh, and thats not me being the student, but my partner.
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Old 13th Jun 2012, 06:17
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Ultralights wrote "The previous lesson was forced landings using the Funnel technique"

I'm not aware of the Funnel Technique.
Can you or someone enlighten me?

John
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Old 13th Jun 2012, 07:09
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its hard to explain in detail, but its a simple technique used by glider pilots.
i might start another thread on it later if enough want to know about it
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Old 13th Jun 2012, 11:27
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Having said that I did the latter in a Traumahawk.
Brave man
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Old 14th Jun 2012, 02:23
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Yeah - was fascinating turning around during a 'mutual' spinning session taking turns to watch the tail waggle back and forth

Then the spin going flat after about 3 turns

Then the nose going vertical and spinning faster for a couple of turns before stopping when you put in opposite rudder and forward stick. On one of the 'mutual' spins my fellow instructor candidate 'just forgot' to unload when he stomped on the opposite rudder - now THAT was interesting

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Old 14th Jun 2012, 05:05
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Just reading that makes my head hurt....

Pity you did not have the little video back then!
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Old 14th Jun 2012, 07:06
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About a month before my tommy was written off an instructor nearly wrote it (and himself) off, got it out of the spin about 4ooft AGL. He said he thought the whole tail was gonna come off
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Old 14th Jun 2012, 07:43
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Well....at least the engine never stopped.
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Old 14th Jun 2012, 08:36
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My d!ckhead partner had a prop strike in it, that's what stopped the prop
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Old 14th Jun 2012, 10:21
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Youve never spun a C150A then.
Yup! C150A, C152 and Traumahawk - lots!

I seem to recall it happening frequently.
Never happened to me - and I have let let them wind right up (FLOPT can vouch for that! ).

Dr

PS: The engine always stopped when I spun the Blanik !!
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Old 14th Jun 2012, 13:38
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Most I ever did in a 150 derobat was 6 turns. Fan never stopped on that one.

Dr,
I once tried to airstart a Kookaburra, but by the time I realised that it was needed, I was already out of altitude.

Spinning the pilatus at minimum cockpit weight was the scariest thing I have ever done.....TF I was thoroughly briefed. NEVER did that again!
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Old 14th Jun 2012, 14:10
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Not sure if this will work.....

what and where :P no apologies for the quality...camera was cutting edge at the time.



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