FA18's over Melbourne right now!

[7gcbc]

Originally Posted by victor two

Don't get me wrong as I think that our ADF people do a great job. What I won't agree to is this notion that the few hornets we sent to Iraq were anything other than a gesture of our support to the global war on terror, which seems to have become something far less defined these days.

'Onya Victor Two, bout bloody time someone said it.

Sick of these politikians who just ignore international law, do what they want and have no bloody shame, MCG F-18's is just PR grandstanding, any terrorist worth their salt would be looking at cement trucks rather than cessna's.....

and of course, we all know the terrorists are just amateurs, just ask the seppo's after a 3 year illegal war in Iraq, check out the IED's they have evolved more in 30 months in Iraq than they did in 300 months in Palestine and Northern Ireland.

yeah right, its all going well..........

[Keg]

lol. Even Saddams generals thought they had WMD. They got the shock of their lives in the immediate time before the conflict when they discovered that had zero, zippo, zilch, nada, none, nought. So if the Iraqi generals thought they had them, how unreasonable was it to think that the rest of the world thought they had them too!

[rmcdonal]

check out the IED's they have evolved more in 30 months in Iraq than they did in 300 months in Palestine and Northern Ireland.

"Necessity is the Mother of Invention."

[Pass-A-Frozo]

What I find most amusing about this entire thread is that a topic about F/A-18's is in the General Aviation thread

"Light twin??"

[7gcbc]

Originally Posted by Keg

lol. Even Saddams generals thought they had WMD. They got the shock of their lives in the immediate time before the conflict when they discovered that had zero, zippo, zilch, nada, none, nought. So if the Iraqi generals thought they had them, how unreasonable was it to think that the rest of the world thought they had them too!

or so initially we are led to believe Keg, however as sucessive arms inspectors turned up little, and in particular european arms and Un arms inspectors were pariahed and discredited as part of a US republican modus operandi, then in my humble opnion, the west , and in particular the US intelligence services , and in most particular the US politicans were played at their own game of misinformation and brinkmanship, and SH proved the better.

Sure, SH lost the war (battle) of Iraq, but the next few years will tell whether the US have the stomach to stick it out, I don't think they do, and that will make it soo soo much worse than it is now.

And the delightful thing from my personal perspective, is that the arrogance of the US precludes them from asking the only body that could help them out, the UN, whom the US has consistantly tried to discredit and dishonour.

well you makes your bed and you lies in it.

[Pass-A-Frozo]

The "power vacuum" is always a problem. Typically that has lead to appeasement . Not a good thing in my belief. I think if you asked Saddam now he would have played his cards differently. What was the alternative? Certainly there still is an argument that he had time to hide off his WMD's. Lets be honest here, he was given lots of advanced notice and had the equivilent of Western Australia (or let's say... Syria!) to hide them. Sat technology is great, but you can log onto a website right now and find when US military sat's are flying over your place..

[7gcbc]

Helen Thomas just asked the questions Tonight.

[Pass-A-Frozo]

now there is a balanced journalist..

[nannas_new_hip]

Originally Posted by Pass-A-Frozo

The "power vacuum" is always a problem. Typically that has lead to appeasement . Not a good thing in my belief. I think if you asked Saddam now he would have played his cards differently. What was the alternative? Certainly there still is an argument that he had time to hide off his WMD's. Lets be honest here, he was given lots of advanced notice and had the equivilent of Western Australia (or let's say... Syria!) to hide them. Sat technology is great, but you can log onto a website right now and find when US military sat's are flying over your place..

CHING CHING! You could be onto something there Frozo.

[Sunfish]

Lets hope that this is an academic argument that ends in a big P1ss up for all concerned.

[Squawk7700]

Sunfish, go ahead and let us know what you were going to tell us once the Closing Ceremony was over...

Something about security...

The forces (Protective Services and DOTARS) were out in force yesterday monitoring the outerlying airfields. Obviously nothing happened by the looks of things. Didn't get a look to see if any destroyers were in town.

[Woomera]

I hear the whisper that the deployment is to beat up Sale late this afternoon in two boxes and then head off home to Willytower.

All's well that ends well it seems.

[Buster Hyman]

beat up Sale

Is that like what happened to the Pong Su???

[Sunfish]

Re security: I've decided I'll shut up because I wasn't supposed to know anyway, its none of my business, and I've checked and it isn't in the public domain. Should it enter the public domain, it would be a different story.

[Buster Hyman]

Perhaps it was the incursion by the secret security forces of Sierra Leone?

[7gcbc]

Correct Sun,

by the way, "The Colonel is in the watchtower, and Danny boy is calling Broadsword, I repeat, Danny Boy is calling Broadsword"