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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 07:39
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Originally Posted by victor two
Don't get me wrong as I think that our ADF people do a great job. What I won't agree to is this notion that the few hornets we sent to Iraq were anything other than a gesture of our support to the global war on terror, which seems to have become something far less defined these days.
'Onya Victor Two, bout bloody time someone said it.

Sick of these politikians who just ignore international law, do what they want and have no bloody shame, MCG F-18's is just PR grandstanding, any terrorist worth their salt would be looking at cement trucks rather than cessna's.....

and of course, we all know the terrorists are just amateurs, just ask the seppo's after a 3 year illegal war in Iraq, check out the IED's they have evolved more in 30 months in Iraq than they did in 300 months in Palestine and Northern Ireland.

yeah right, its all going well..........
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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 08:10
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lol. Even Saddams generals thought they had WMD. They got the shock of their lives in the immediate time before the conflict when they discovered that had zero, zippo, zilch, nada, none, nought. So if the Iraqi generals thought they had them, how unreasonable was it to think that the rest of the world thought they had them too!
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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 08:19
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check out the IED's they have evolved more in 30 months in Iraq than they did in 300 months in Palestine and Northern Ireland.
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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 08:31
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What I find most amusing about this entire thread is that a topic about F/A-18's is in the General Aviation thread

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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 08:59
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Originally Posted by Keg
lol. Even Saddams generals thought they had WMD. They got the shock of their lives in the immediate time before the conflict when they discovered that had zero, zippo, zilch, nada, none, nought. So if the Iraqi generals thought they had them, how unreasonable was it to think that the rest of the world thought they had them too!
or so initially we are led to believe Keg, however as sucessive arms inspectors turned up little, and in particular european arms and Un arms inspectors were pariahed and discredited as part of a US republican modus operandi, then in my humble opnion, the west , and in particular the US intelligence services , and in most particular the US politicans were played at their own game of misinformation and brinkmanship, and SH proved the better.

Sure, SH lost the war (battle) of Iraq, but the next few years will tell whether the US have the stomach to stick it out, I don't think they do, and that will make it soo soo much worse than it is now.

And the delightful thing from my personal perspective, is that the arrogance of the US precludes them from asking the only body that could help them out, the UN, whom the US has consistantly tried to discredit and dishonour.

well you makes your bed and you lies in it.

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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 09:06
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The "power vacuum" is always a problem. Typically that has lead to appeasement . Not a good thing in my belief. I think if you asked Saddam now he would have played his cards differently. What was the alternative? Certainly there still is an argument that he had time to hide off his WMD's. Lets be honest here, he was given lots of advanced notice and had the equivilent of Western Australia (or let's say... Syria!) to hide them. Sat technology is great, but you can log onto a website right now and find when US military sat's are flying over your place..
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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 10:29
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now there is a balanced journalist..
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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 10:45
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Originally Posted by Pass-A-Frozo
The "power vacuum" is always a problem. Typically that has lead to appeasement . Not a good thing in my belief. I think if you asked Saddam now he would have played his cards differently. What was the alternative? Certainly there still is an argument that he had time to hide off his WMD's. Lets be honest here, he was given lots of advanced notice and had the equivilent of Western Australia (or let's say... Syria!) to hide them. Sat technology is great, but you can log onto a website right now and find when US military sat's are flying over your place..

CHING CHING! You could be onto something there Frozo.
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Old 22nd Mar 2006, 11:18
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Lets hope that this is an academic argument that ends in a big P1ss up for all concerned.
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Old 26th Mar 2006, 22:48
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Sunfish, go ahead and let us know what you were going to tell us once the Closing Ceremony was over...

Something about security...

The forces (Protective Services and DOTARS) were out in force yesterday monitoring the outerlying airfields. Obviously nothing happened by the looks of things. Didn't get a look to see if any destroyers were in town.
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 01:03
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I hear the whisper that the deployment is to beat up Sale late this afternoon in two boxes and then head off home to Willytower.

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Old 27th Mar 2006, 01:44
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beat up Sale
Is that like what happened to the Pong Su???
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 02:03
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Re security: I've decided I'll shut up because I wasn't supposed to know anyway, its none of my business, and I've checked and it isn't in the public domain. Should it enter the public domain, it would be a different story.
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 03:52
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Perhaps it was the incursion by the secret security forces of Sierra Leone?
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Old 27th Mar 2006, 03:54
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Correct Sun,

by the way, "The Colonel is in the watchtower, and Danny boy is calling Broadsword, I repeat, Danny Boy is calling Broadsword"

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