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Old 9th Feb 2006, 04:26
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virgin and jetstar jobs for a newbee

Hi all,

I'm new to this forum and have a couple of questions. Any helpful advise would be appreciated!

I have nearly completed my CPL, have about 15 hours to go. Just wondering if anyone knows if any of the airlines are taking anybody this year. (virgin, jetstar, rex etc etc.). I have around 180 hours in piper warriors and arrows and a few hours in a duchess. Someone told me that they like people with experience in planes such as a duchess as they are fairly high performance.

By the way, will i need an instrument rating for any of the airlines i have mentioned???

Thanks everyone!

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Old 9th Feb 2006, 04:44
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Hi Tinpis4,
you should refuse to pay for your instrument rating at all cost! Dont do it! I certainly hope you didn't pay for your CPL either.
What you need to do is heed the advice of so many experts and sit back and wait for an airline to come along and feel sorry for you. They will fund your instrument rating and your endorsemnt training.
There are hardly any endorsed and current pilots overseas wanting to move back to OZ so sit back at Bankstown and just wait for the phonecall.

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...methinks its time for a vasectomy......
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A close friend of mine has a freind who know's somebody who works for smiths crisps, and this bloke knows a bloke who is very good friends with another bloke who married a woman from shell refuelling. Well this woman knows, very closely I might add, the head of human resources at Qantas. Well rumour would have it that both Qantas and Virgin got together and predicted this incredible pilot shortage and so set out to make it easier for everyone. They lowered the hurdle so to speak. It would seem that after just a few short hours in a Duchess, you could be selected to have an all expenses paid trip to the recruiting room, where after a few short minutes on a 74 or 73 sim you could be hand selected to have your Instrument rating paid for, your 74 or 73 endoresment paid for and your first roster is set to be a winner. Oh don't worry though the 74 is configured in 2 engine ops so as not bamboozle you. I also am led to believe they after duchess pilots to F111 conversion training as they have discovered the total lack of duchess time in some of the current pilots.

What a great wind up!


Just in case it is not, you seriously need to stop wasting time on these forums and start looking at the requirements of your chosen Airlines. They will give you the minimum requirements, you work it out from there. If you get knocked back from Qantas then start saving is my suggestion for :

a) Your Instrument Rating
B) Living away from home
c) A dodgy car and trailer registered in all states
d) Your Aircraft endoresments along the way
e) Retirement (in case you don't get in by then

But above all have fun, as I am sure you are with this thread.
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Old 9th Feb 2006, 05:31
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Tinpis4,

Dude, the requirements for those airlines you mentioned are quite high, and pretty hard to get into...even after you have been flying for a while. Completing flying school is the easy bit, afterwards is where you have to be prepared to move countries, sacrifice holidays and work for around nothing just for the love of flying to gain those hours of experience you need to even apply to the likes of VB, Jet*, Rex..and so on...

Either the Cadetship route with Qantas, Instructor rating or like most of us...the regional Charter company either in a different country or in the middle of no-where is what happens in reality after flying school.

What ever you choose, Good Luck! Also, those airlines you mentioned can be found on the internet with their min. requirments and current positions....Just search for it, I am sure you will find it.

Anyway, Good Luck with that..

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Old 9th Feb 2006, 06:23
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This must be a GEEEEEEEEEEE up. If the bloke has been to flying school and really had achieved a CPL I am sure he would know exactly what the min requirements were..

As for the replies..... This is why I love the personality and humour of pilots. As harsh as the responses posted in the forum are generally this is most certainly deserving of such treatment.

You crazy guys/gals
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Does the SeaCaptain need duchess time to command his fleet of ships??

Perhaps the seacaptain needs some remedial training??


Argghhh!
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Probably isn't a Geeup, you should hear some of the stuff that the PR departments of some of the big flying schools spin
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Does that mean I wasted all that money on an instrument rating when Geoff Dixon was going to pay for it?????

I could have used that money for many useful things........like my type endorsement, or is Geoff paying for that as well??
Maybe i'll give my mate Richard B a call.

I could have given it to a charity i suppose, like the collingwood football club!
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Angry

Geez! tinpis...why didn't you tell us you had a recalcitrant kid out there??

Any more we should watch out for? Strewth!
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Tinpis4,

I am the owner of a Nigerian airline flying school who are looking at setting up a flying base in Australia. The only issue is we need a small amount of funding to get started down under.

If you can send me a cheque of $US25,000, this will give me the capital to establish the flying school and I will make you a major shareholder.

In return for your assistance I will give you instrument and turbine training at no cost and I will return your $25,000 to you at the end of your training. I have may friends who are senior managers for African and Asian airlines and I will be able to get you a job there easily. One of my friends is hiring pilots to fly 767s if they have at least 300 hours total time, with a minimum of 150 hours in Pipers.

Tinpis4, my operation needs people like you. If you are interested please PM me with your bank and contact details.

Gen. Alfred Hoziman
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Can't believe some of you guys even consider that not ot be a wind-up. Not even close to being subtle enough to be a good one!

Tinpis4 go and practice your wind-ups better next time
 
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Tinpis4 go and practice your wind-ups better next time
If you had tried both Virgin and Jetstar to set up pilot cadet program's, you may have just been on a WINNER!!
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thanks Ando1Bar vbmenu_register("postmenu_2379222", true); ,

It is great to hear that you are willing to give me my first job, a start into the airlines. I am very very interested! Obviously i will need a bit of time to get together the US$25000 and also the total time of 300 hours that you require. Please PM me with more details and i will PM you within the next few days with my bank details.

Also, will i be flying 767's??? As i said before, i do have a few hours in a duchess and really think this is an advantage over many other pilots in the industry. I do realise that the duchess is a very high performance aircraft and a challenge to fly so if flying a 767 is anything like a beech duchess, i'm your man! hear from you soon!

Thanks for your advice fellow pilots, keep it coming! newbee's like myself appreciate help from more experienced pilot's like you guys! Oh, and by the way, as i said, i am new to this forum and what the hell is a windup??????? cheers

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Oh, and by the way, as i said, i am new to this forum and what the hell is a windup???????
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Good to hear back from your Tinpis4,

Before I talk to you about our plans, I want to clarify what a windup is. It is a special way of starting up your Piper Warrior or Arrow without having to turn the key. Here are the steps, write them down:

1. Turn on the master switch (the big red switch, should be towards the middle of the cockpit for you).
2. Push the big red lever labelled 'Mixture' fully towards the firewall. Push the big black throttle lever in as well.
3. Put the keys in the ignition and place them in the 'on' position, be careful not to turn it too far to the 'start' position otherwise you'll ruin this really cool trick.
4. Now exit the aircraft and go to where the propeller is (the big spinning thing that helps you fly).
5. Turn the propeller with your hands in the clockwise direction if you are facing the engine. Don't be scared to place your head near the propeller to hear what is going on.
6. If the propeller doesn't kick back try turning it in the opposite direction. Don't forget to place your head near the blade to hear what is going on.
7. Soon the propeller should start, and look - you didn't even have to turn the keys.

Does anyone else have any tips for achieving a 'windup'? I've never actually performed this trick myself.

Okay, back to business. I'll PM you soon with my details, our Nigerian company has many business interests that involve us placing money in various accounts. You can be assured we are a legitimate business!

You mentioned that you don't have 300 hours total time. Don't worry, at the end of my course you'll have all the hours needed (only 300!) that will give you the skills to fly 767s for my old friend. I was thinking of offering you time in a Tomahawk to build up this experience, does this sound okay given your experience in low wing aircraft? No need to fly Cessnas - they have awful high wings.

Your experience in a Duchess is fascinating, but I was thinking up bumping you up to something even more exciting - a Twin Commanche! This aircraft will give you experience at the highest level and who knows, one day it could lead to you flying in the left seat of a A380 (that's the really big new jet). Something I'll get you to practice whilst solo in the Twin Commanche is engine failures. Just pull the one of the red levers fully back towards you and you'll be practicing some emergencies. Don't worry, this type of aircraft is really easy to fly with one engine inoperative.

Please tell your buddies down at the flying school about me. I can't offer them the same benefits for $25K though, for them it will have to be $50K. Don't worry though, there are plenty of 767s to go around.

Regards,

General Alfred
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Ah Tinpis4, I am laughing so hard I can hardly keep still. Please give us some insight into your brain. What did you do before starting to fly? What flying school did you go to? Did any of the Instructors in your course laugh at you the way I am?

What do you like to eat? Are you Gay or Hetro? What is your real life goal, is it to be a comedian?

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The contractor....

Certainly making me laugh
hehe

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Oh thank God for tinpis4!!.......its been a long time since i've had a good laugh reading a thread on pprune....who said aviation was all doom and gloom!!!!
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