Dangerous Anzac day air display
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Dangerous Anzac day air display
CASA have been notified of a dangerous incident during the Anzac day fly past at Torquay. This year a new operator conducted the display. The previous operator has video footage of the display and is alleging one aircraft came close to stalling at low level directly over the crowd. They also have tapes of the radio conversation between display aircraft and have made the tapes and video footage available to CASA to assist them in their investigation.
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I seem to recount a post eerily similar to this concerning Anzac Day last year.
Something about a formation flight taking place before first light involving non NVFR rated pilots and ill-equipped aircraft.
What's with dobbing people in on Anzac Day? I never thought it was such a sensitive occasion.
520.
Something about a formation flight taking place before first light involving non NVFR rated pilots and ill-equipped aircraft.
What's with dobbing people in on Anzac Day? I never thought it was such a sensitive occasion.
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I think the poster summed it up really. "New operator" "Previous operator" has video footage. Anybody else smell a grinding axe?????? Really, for all the pissing and moaning that goes on in that little circle of airfields, I'm surprised anyone actually has time to do any real work at any of them these days......
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Part or the reason a new operator got the job this year is that the previous operator severely damaged two of his Tiger Moths on Anzac day last year and only has one left flying.
It's hard to do a Tiger formation flight with only one Tiger Moth.
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It's hard to do a Tiger formation flight with only one Tiger Moth.
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Gday Tarboy.
If what you say is correct, what a mob of morons, but remember they are regarded by a large proportion of the aviation industry as fwitts. They advertise themselves as Australia’s largest Tiger Moth operator (with one Tiger Moth?) and have advertised climb aboard a WW1 aeroplane. Tiger Moth 1918 I don’t think so. Their imagination seems to run wild or just maybe they really believe this crapp they serve up to the public, it could also border on false advertising. As for a formation flight with one Tiger Moth I would love to see that.
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If what you say is correct, what a mob of morons, but remember they are regarded by a large proportion of the aviation industry as fwitts. They advertise themselves as Australia’s largest Tiger Moth operator (with one Tiger Moth?) and have advertised climb aboard a WW1 aeroplane. Tiger Moth 1918 I don’t think so. Their imagination seems to run wild or just maybe they really believe this crapp they serve up to the public, it could also border on false advertising. As for a formation flight with one Tiger Moth I would love to see that.
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You mean like this?
Langley Formation: Jandakot Tower, Langley Formation, Ship Yards inbound
Tower: Langley Formation, roger, what aircraft are left in the formation?
Langley Formation: Langley Formation, just me left, Romeo Whiskey India
Tower: Then I think we will just call you Romeo Whiskey India
VH-RWI: Romeo Whiskey India
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Langley Formation: Jandakot Tower, Langley Formation, Ship Yards inbound
Tower: Langley Formation, roger, what aircraft are left in the formation?
Langley Formation: Langley Formation, just me left, Romeo Whiskey India
Tower: Then I think we will just call you Romeo Whiskey India
VH-RWI: Romeo Whiskey India
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G'day QNIM,
The past operator operated non VMC and severely damaged two Tigers without prosecution so I can't see any action being taken over this alleged incident. I think it is just a monumental waste of CASA's time as they are obliged to investigate any alleged breaches.
Chippie Chappie,
Radio Procedures at Torquay.
If the opposition is flying flat out then a phantom fight departs Torquay and proceeds to call outbound, inbound, and joing the circuit when the whole time the aircraft is observed sitting on the ground. The opposite happens when they get busy; there call downwind for Rwy 18 and land straight in on Rwy 36 - no wonder they run head on into each other.
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The past operator operated non VMC and severely damaged two Tigers without prosecution so I can't see any action being taken over this alleged incident. I think it is just a monumental waste of CASA's time as they are obliged to investigate any alleged breaches.
Chippie Chappie,
Radio Procedures at Torquay.
If the opposition is flying flat out then a phantom fight departs Torquay and proceeds to call outbound, inbound, and joing the circuit when the whole time the aircraft is observed sitting on the ground. The opposite happens when they get busy; there call downwind for Rwy 18 and land straight in on Rwy 36 - no wonder they run head on into each other.
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It seems these wackers that reported the incident are real aviation experts they can tell from miles away exactely what the angle of attack was and the other 8000 witnesses that thought it was not a safety issue are wrong, me thinks a bit of jeolousy because the job was carried out in a safe and professional manner not like the previous year with the demolition of two Tiger Moths, and we are still waiting for the authority to take some action over the matter.
I bet the FAA wouldn't stuff around or would they?
We still live in hope.
Cheers Q
It seems these wackers that reported the incident are real aviation experts they can tell from miles away exactely what the angle of attack was and the other 8000 witnesses that thought it was not a safety issue are wrong, me thinks a bit of jeolousy because the job was carried out in a safe and professional manner not like the previous year with the demolition of two Tiger Moths, and we are still waiting for the authority to take some action over the matter.
I bet the FAA wouldn't stuff around or would they?
We still live in hope.
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Hi Tarboy,
Sounds like you need eyes in the back of head to operate there!
Shame the two "bosses" can't act like grown-ups. Maybe they'll get a visit one day.... (one should have nasty things done to oneself if one writes-off a beautiful Tiger!)
It was a bit of an aside, but my post was just showing what a formation of one is like. VH-RWI is a DHC-1 Chipmunk so there's a slight connection there too, being a De Havilland product
Cheers,
Chips
Sounds like you need eyes in the back of head to operate there!
Shame the two "bosses" can't act like grown-ups. Maybe they'll get a visit one day.... (one should have nasty things done to oneself if one writes-off a beautiful Tiger!)It was a bit of an aside, but my post was just showing what a formation of one is like. VH-RWI is a DHC-1 Chipmunk so there's a slight connection there too, being a De Havilland product
Cheers,
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Hi Chippie,
Enjoyed your earlier post – good humour never goes astray!
You could be right – they may get a visit one day.
I recall a certain Qantas captain getting a visit when he departed Launceston without activating the lighting prior to departure. He didn’t damage anything but was unfortunate enough to have a few flying types on board who made CASA aware of the event. If there is any consistency in CASA’s approach to this sort of thing you would imagine a formation flight departing an unlit runway before first light in non IFR aircraft resulting in an accident on landing would also lead to prosecution.
Look after that DHC-1 – these De Havillands are disappearing fast.
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Enjoyed your earlier post – good humour never goes astray!
You could be right – they may get a visit one day.
I recall a certain Qantas captain getting a visit when he departed Launceston without activating the lighting prior to departure. He didn’t damage anything but was unfortunate enough to have a few flying types on board who made CASA aware of the event. If there is any consistency in CASA’s approach to this sort of thing you would imagine a formation flight departing an unlit runway before first light in non IFR aircraft resulting in an accident on landing would also lead to prosecution.
Look after that DHC-1 – these De Havillands are disappearing fast.
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QNIM,
That would be the Great Lakes.
Maybe people got sick of booking a Tiger Moth flight and being told when they showed up they were going in the "Super Tiger."
I'm sure it will reappear when the insurance claim goes in.
That's how CASA became aware of the last prang - the insurance company requested a copy of the accident report.
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That would be the Great Lakes.
Maybe people got sick of booking a Tiger Moth flight and being told when they showed up they were going in the "Super Tiger."
I'm sure it will reappear when the insurance claim goes in.
That's how CASA became aware of the last prang - the insurance company requested a copy of the accident report.
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This sort of bull$hit really gets me going! 
What is it with these bl00ody pilots who think its their duty to monitor all others and then report anything they perceive as improper behaviour. I remember thinking pilots were a professional bunch, proud of their profession and dedicated to providing the best service to their passengers or clients. The more I hear of these pathetic eegits who video tape or record fellow pilots and then mail this off to CASA in the childish hope of getting someone into trouble, the more I lose faith in this so called profession.
Unfortunately these individuals are usually more concerned with commercial gain than genuine safety concerns. Why the hell can't these pilots just do their job to the best of their ability and accept that they are not Gods gift to aviation and that there are some people out there that may be better at it than they are.
This sort of childish bickering means CASA have to waste their time investigating these often fanciful allegations instead of pursuing those who legitimately threaten the safety of aviation.
Rant over!
Hollywood
What is it with these bl00ody pilots who think its their duty to monitor all others and then report anything they perceive as improper behaviour. I remember thinking pilots were a professional bunch, proud of their profession and dedicated to providing the best service to their passengers or clients. The more I hear of these pathetic eegits who video tape or record fellow pilots and then mail this off to CASA in the childish hope of getting someone into trouble, the more I lose faith in this so called profession.
Unfortunately these individuals are usually more concerned with commercial gain than genuine safety concerns. Why the hell can't these pilots just do their job to the best of their ability and accept that they are not Gods gift to aviation and that there are some people out there that may be better at it than they are.
This sort of childish bickering means CASA have to waste their time investigating these often fanciful allegations instead of pursuing those who legitimately threaten the safety of aviation.
Rant over!
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Gday Capt Hollywood
Hang on a minute these wankers really believe they are gods gift to aviation and they also believe they have exclusive use of the airspace along the Great Ocean Road, just ask any of the opposition pilots it that area, it could also be said they are gods gift to maintenance engineers with all the work they generate.
Cheers Q
Hang on a minute these wankers really believe they are gods gift to aviation and they also believe they have exclusive use of the airspace along the Great Ocean Road, just ask any of the opposition pilots it that area, it could also be said they are gods gift to maintenance engineers with all the work they generate.
Cheers Q