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75's the way to go?
Rod Nelson was PX CEO some time back.Time to look at PX management
IT was with much concern that I read the recent article by Kevin Pamba (“Air Niugini is a disgrace to PNG”) about the current performance of Air Niugini and the comments by former Air Niugini pilot, Capt James Makop.
Under the leadership and good governance of former chairman Joseph Tauvasa and my executive team, Air Niugini not only returned to profitability and financial viability but also improved substantially in terms of on-time performance, reliability and customer service during 2003, 2004 and 2005.
Whilst I can sympathise with Capt Makop’s comments about a lack of a timely replacement of the B767-300ER aircraft when it was returned to the lessor last month, I reject the comment that the former management has any responsibility for the current state of affairs.
At my instigation, Air Niugini established a strategy taskforce in 2004-05, comprising board members and senior executives, to address systematically the replacement of the ageing F28 fleet and to decide whether to replace the B767 at the end of its lease in last month.
A F28 re-fleeting plan was being implemented well before my departure and in 2005, I commenced discussions with the lessor of the B767 about extending the lease of the aircraft or replacing it in 2007.
My plan was to canvass options for re-leasing the B767 aircraft, to determine viable alternative aircraft becoming available and to make a recommendation to the board by July last year, providing a lead-time for a possible change of aircraft of over 12 months.
I am not aware of the reasons for the delay in acquiring a replacement aircraft.
However, I am aware of a lot of changes in the management of the airline over the past 18 months and this instability may have a bearing on the current performance of the airline.
I understand that since January last year, three general managers of engineering, the general manager of flight operations, the general manager of marketing, the senior human resources manager, the senior planning manager, the IT manager, the aviation security manager, the purchasing manager, the cargo manager, senior pilots, senior licensed engineers and other key personnel, both PNG citizens and expatriates, have left the airline.
Perhaps it is time for the PNG Government to have a look at the current leadership of the national airline, to determine why there has been such an exodus of key personnel and to take action to ensure that Air Niugini delivers efficiently the services that the people and businesses of PNG require.
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Ahhhhhhh! reminds me of the 'good old days' when waigani swamp and chimbu chuckles baited one another.
Though, as my old man used to say, 'you can catch just as many trout by tickling as with a fly!'
Though, as my old man used to say, 'you can catch just as many trout by tickling as with a fly!'
Photo's of Beaver VH-AAQ wanted
An old aviator friend of mine would like to get some photo's of Beaver VH-AAQ he flew with PATAIR in PNG.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Caught a glimpse of an ad on ABC for the Show "Dynasties" to be aired Thursday. It's about the Leahy family. If it's not censored it should be good!!!
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Hang on, help is on it's way
Hanoi I would have thought you organised this help..........
Despite the gloomy outlook, the airline is getting help from Iceland with Icelandic Air agreeing to lease one of its Boeing 757 jetliners.
“To provide better customer service to international passengers, the board of Air Niugini Ltd. has approved management to secure a second aircraft for its international operations. To this effect, Air Niugini has engaged a Boeing 757 from Loftleinder Icelandic of Iceland. This company is a part of Icelandic Air,” said Kumarasiri.
The Boeing 757 is expected to arrive in PNG in early December, at about the same time when the airline is also expected to get another F-100 to add to its existing fleet.
Despite the gloomy outlook, the airline is getting help from Iceland with Icelandic Air agreeing to lease one of its Boeing 757 jetliners.
“To provide better customer service to international passengers, the board of Air Niugini Ltd. has approved management to secure a second aircraft for its international operations. To this effect, Air Niugini has engaged a Boeing 757 from Loftleinder Icelandic of Iceland. This company is a part of Icelandic Air,” said Kumarasiri.
The Boeing 757 is expected to arrive in PNG in early December, at about the same time when the airline is also expected to get another F-100 to add to its existing fleet.
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Does anyone in Px management really know the capability of the B757?. It is limited in range and payload for Px route structure.
767 & 757 are not the same planes except for the common type ratings. There is an AUW difference of 72 metric tonnes, assuming it has RR 535E4 engines, otherwise its 79 tonnes wt difference with RR 535C engines.!
Cant use 757 for domestic routes. Only good for POM, BNE & CNS.. it is not a cheap plane to lease.
Can anyone here see any logic..?
767 & 757 are not the same planes except for the common type ratings. There is an AUW difference of 72 metric tonnes, assuming it has RR 535E4 engines, otherwise its 79 tonnes wt difference with RR 535C engines.!
Cant use 757 for domestic routes. Only good for POM, BNE & CNS.. it is not a cheap plane to lease.
Can anyone here see any logic..?
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twinjet69
Rather a sweeping statement if it's your first post . Can you please elaborate ?.
MACH.8
The B757 has 180 mins ETOPS and can go POM-Narita non-stop ( longest network sector ) with full pax load.
Chimbu Warrior
Actually the B757 is due in POM next week.
Just remember that , despite everything you read and hear , there are still
some dedicated and capable people in Pixie , although the circumstances are getting blary trying.
Rather a sweeping statement if it's your first post . Can you please elaborate ?.
MACH.8
The B757 has 180 mins ETOPS and can go POM-Narita non-stop ( longest network sector ) with full pax load.
Chimbu Warrior
Actually the B757 is due in POM next week.
Just remember that , despite everything you read and hear , there are still
some dedicated and capable people in Pixie , although the circumstances are getting blary trying.
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Ohhhh, Hanoi, forever the protective one, for what?, isn't it time you let go?. Maybe it was my first post, but that has no bearing on how long I have been around. If you, and I'm sure others past and present, feel a 'sterling job' has been achieved by a long successive line of PX management, then, of course you are welcome to your opinion, just as I am to mine.
I'm the first to admit, PNG is not the easiest place to do business, but why accept a position with equivalent renumeration, and then proceed to feather your own nest further.......
Also, I'm quite happy to admit that I probably couldn't do better, under the circumstances!-depends on how you read that
. Give you a clue where I'm coming from, aircraft purchases, aircraft leasing, staff retention, staff accommodation, engineering, to name but a few. What about just posting a decent profit, without cooking the books, after all, they do/have had a monopoly!. I'll put it back to you, detail any major successes (just financial if you like) that have originated from PX management over say, the past 15years.
I'm the first to admit, PNG is not the easiest place to do business, but why accept a position with equivalent renumeration, and then proceed to feather your own nest further.......
Also, I'm quite happy to admit that I probably couldn't do better, under the circumstances!-depends on how you read that
. Give you a clue where I'm coming from, aircraft purchases, aircraft leasing, staff retention, staff accommodation, engineering, to name but a few. What about just posting a decent profit, without cooking the books, after all, they do/have had a monopoly!. I'll put it back to you, detail any major successes (just financial if you like) that have originated from PX management over say, the past 15years.
B757
Hanoi, I merely cut-and-pasted the B757 snippet from Pacific magazine. I am a big fan of the 757, and hope it goes well. Best looking jetliner ever.
I agree entirely with you regarding the dedication of some PX staff. It has always been the pollies that throw a spanner in the works.
I agree entirely with you regarding the dedication of some PX staff. It has always been the pollies that throw a spanner in the works.
www.thenational.com.pg
Air Niugini is a disgrace to PNG
Abrupt cancellation of flights and delays are a norm to the public who use Air Niugini.
As cancellations and delays are so rampant, everyone using Air Niugini (there is no competition in this sector) have to factor these into their travel plans. And this is not a joke.
It seems the days when flights are on schedule are gone.
Air Niugini has become so unreliable in recent weeks that the grassroots travellers must have sufficient money (preferably in cash) to avoid getting into trouble and stranded when Air Niugini suddenly cancels a flight without prior notice to say 3.30am at Jackson Airport in Port Moresby.
The cash can also be used to bribe, yes bribe, one’s way into getting a seat confirmed when on wait list or to have baggage checked in even if it is above the 16kg allowable weight per passenger.
If one is lucky, he or she will get a reliable Air Niugini staff that will help out or arrange for a courtesy service to rest at a hotel under the airline’s expense when a flight is cancelled.
If you don’t ask, they are likely to ignore you.
You can no longer expect to be at work on time on Monday morning, say in Madang, after being in Port Moresby for the weekend.
When you have an Air Niugini ticket that says you will board a flight to Madang at 5.45am on Monday from Port Moresby, and you think you will be on time for work after the one-hour flight on a F100, don’t bet on it.
Please do factor in and expect abrupt cancellations and delays as happened on Monday.
As it monopolises the major routes in the country, the airline appears unperturbed by the damage it is causing to the economy and the travelling public.
What is happening now is unacceptable.
It is affecting people across the spectrum in private and public sectors and the community at large.
People are spending their hard-earned money on airline tickets, cargo services on one of the world’s most expensive airfare structure with some of the world’s most strict conditions attached
to them, and they deserve better than what they are being put through now.
Those of us who have travelled around the world on some of the overseas airlines can compare that services of Air Niugini and frankly say that apart from the clean safety record, PNG’s national flag carrier continues be one of the most expensive and unreliable airlines around.
Former Air Niugini pilot, Capt James Makop made some startling
observations of one aspect of the national airline’s management style in a Letter to the Editor published by The National yesterday.
Capt Makop, who is now flying a Boeing 747-400 for a Chinese airliner, was concerned with the lack of timely replacement of leased aircraft by Air Niugini.
“It is absolutely amazing how the management of Air Niugini, from past to present, have appeared oblivious to the need to arrange timely aircraft replacement for incumbent leased aircraft prior to the expiry pf the Boeing 767 aircraft,” he wrote.
“For the management not to address the obvious, denotes a level of incompetence that is all the more intolerable given that such situations occurred on numerous occasions in the past.
“The public needs to be aware that the procurement of suitable replacement aircraft takes time given that airplanes are not like cars in a sales yard just waiting for clients to come along and buy them.”
Capt Makop goes on to say that “it is high time knowledgeable people in the industry are given the rein of running the airline both at the management and at board level.
“The total breakdown today speaks volume of the level of sheer incompetence and the shareholders, who happen to be the travelling public, should not have to put up with this affront,” Capt Makop wrote.
One can only hope there is no one out there who is planning to organise the public for a class action against Air Niugini for damages and losses caused by the abrupt cancellation and rescheduling of flights nationwide at present.
Air Niugini is a disgrace to PNG
Abrupt cancellation of flights and delays are a norm to the public who use Air Niugini.
As cancellations and delays are so rampant, everyone using Air Niugini (there is no competition in this sector) have to factor these into their travel plans. And this is not a joke.
It seems the days when flights are on schedule are gone.
Air Niugini has become so unreliable in recent weeks that the grassroots travellers must have sufficient money (preferably in cash) to avoid getting into trouble and stranded when Air Niugini suddenly cancels a flight without prior notice to say 3.30am at Jackson Airport in Port Moresby.
The cash can also be used to bribe, yes bribe, one’s way into getting a seat confirmed when on wait list or to have baggage checked in even if it is above the 16kg allowable weight per passenger.
If one is lucky, he or she will get a reliable Air Niugini staff that will help out or arrange for a courtesy service to rest at a hotel under the airline’s expense when a flight is cancelled.
If you don’t ask, they are likely to ignore you.
You can no longer expect to be at work on time on Monday morning, say in Madang, after being in Port Moresby for the weekend.
When you have an Air Niugini ticket that says you will board a flight to Madang at 5.45am on Monday from Port Moresby, and you think you will be on time for work after the one-hour flight on a F100, don’t bet on it.
Please do factor in and expect abrupt cancellations and delays as happened on Monday.
As it monopolises the major routes in the country, the airline appears unperturbed by the damage it is causing to the economy and the travelling public.
What is happening now is unacceptable.
It is affecting people across the spectrum in private and public sectors and the community at large.
People are spending their hard-earned money on airline tickets, cargo services on one of the world’s most expensive airfare structure with some of the world’s most strict conditions attached
to them, and they deserve better than what they are being put through now.
Those of us who have travelled around the world on some of the overseas airlines can compare that services of Air Niugini and frankly say that apart from the clean safety record, PNG’s national flag carrier continues be one of the most expensive and unreliable airlines around.
Former Air Niugini pilot, Capt James Makop made some startling
observations of one aspect of the national airline’s management style in a Letter to the Editor published by The National yesterday.
Capt Makop, who is now flying a Boeing 747-400 for a Chinese airliner, was concerned with the lack of timely replacement of leased aircraft by Air Niugini.
“It is absolutely amazing how the management of Air Niugini, from past to present, have appeared oblivious to the need to arrange timely aircraft replacement for incumbent leased aircraft prior to the expiry pf the Boeing 767 aircraft,” he wrote.
“For the management not to address the obvious, denotes a level of incompetence that is all the more intolerable given that such situations occurred on numerous occasions in the past.
“The public needs to be aware that the procurement of suitable replacement aircraft takes time given that airplanes are not like cars in a sales yard just waiting for clients to come along and buy them.”
Capt Makop goes on to say that “it is high time knowledgeable people in the industry are given the rein of running the airline both at the management and at board level.
“The total breakdown today speaks volume of the level of sheer incompetence and the shareholders, who happen to be the travelling public, should not have to put up with this affront,” Capt Makop wrote.
One can only hope there is no one out there who is planning to organise the public for a class action against Air Niugini for damages and losses caused by the abrupt cancellation and rescheduling of flights nationwide at present.
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twinjet... tell us what you really think.
I had a good few years in PNG with PX (as well as TN and GV) and I reckon we did a pretty good job with all the BS and enquiries we had to go through, political interfering (O'Kuk for one) and available resources. Crikey, even the tax man went through my personal finances when I was accused by a certain Assistant GM (who subsequently went to the sand pit, I think, with Omani) of taking kick backs.
There were/are plenty of success stories... they just don't make the news.
I had a good few years in PNG with PX (as well as TN and GV) and I reckon we did a pretty good job with all the BS and enquiries we had to go through, political interfering (O'Kuk for one) and available resources. Crikey, even the tax man went through my personal finances when I was accused by a certain Assistant GM (who subsequently went to the sand pit, I think, with Omani) of taking kick backs.
There were/are plenty of success stories... they just don't make the news.
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why accept a position with equivalent renumeration, and then proceed to feather your own nest further.......
There were/are plenty of success stories... they just don't make the news.
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HANOI Ref: B757
twinjet69
Rather a sweeping statement if it's your first post . Can you please elaborate ?.
MACH.8
The B757 has 180 mins ETOPS and can go POM-Narita non-stop ( longest network sector ) with full pax load.
Chimbu Warrior
Actually the B757 is due in POM next week.
Just remember that , despite everything you read and hear , there are still
some dedicated and capable people in Pixie , although the circumstances are getting blary trying.
My friend, I draw two conclusions.
1. you are a boeing salesman or,
2. you are and have been part of PX management.
Boeing sales broucher shows a range of 3900nm (8hrs) for the 757-200.
When you factor in the mandatory reserves, contingencies, company fuel policies, ETP1D fuels etc, that number is consideribly reduced.
Are you telling me that you want to arrive in POM from any one of the asian destinations with bare minimum fuel in the tanks and find that you are unable to land due to one of the many reasons. ( way too many to list here..!)?
Cairns is 1hr 15 mins away.... rest assured you will park your 757 in bootless bay under 2000FT of water.
Now consider the fact that you may have had depresurisation 400nm out. Where is your nearest alternate airport.? Are your going to cross the ranges at 10,000FT at night.? Will you have enough fuel.?
Oh I almost forgot; 180mins ETOPS. Show me the reference and how that's going to fix PX's problems.
Narita RWY is TOW limited so please show me that math how the B757 can help PX's payload problem.
I do apologize for being straight forward but your postings are in line with the PX managements' line of thinking. (former & current)
Bite me!
MACH.85
Rather a sweeping statement if it's your first post . Can you please elaborate ?.
MACH.8
The B757 has 180 mins ETOPS and can go POM-Narita non-stop ( longest network sector ) with full pax load.
Chimbu Warrior
Actually the B757 is due in POM next week.
Just remember that , despite everything you read and hear , there are still
some dedicated and capable people in Pixie , although the circumstances are getting blary trying.
My friend, I draw two conclusions.
1. you are a boeing salesman or,
2. you are and have been part of PX management.
Boeing sales broucher shows a range of 3900nm (8hrs) for the 757-200.
When you factor in the mandatory reserves, contingencies, company fuel policies, ETP1D fuels etc, that number is consideribly reduced.
Are you telling me that you want to arrive in POM from any one of the asian destinations with bare minimum fuel in the tanks and find that you are unable to land due to one of the many reasons. ( way too many to list here..!)?
Cairns is 1hr 15 mins away.... rest assured you will park your 757 in bootless bay under 2000FT of water.
Now consider the fact that you may have had depresurisation 400nm out. Where is your nearest alternate airport.? Are your going to cross the ranges at 10,000FT at night.? Will you have enough fuel.?
Oh I almost forgot; 180mins ETOPS. Show me the reference and how that's going to fix PX's problems.
Narita RWY is TOW limited so please show me that math how the B757 can help PX's payload problem.
I do apologize for being straight forward but your postings are in line with the PX managements' line of thinking. (former & current)
Bite me!
MACH.85