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Does anyone have any information on "Savannah Aviation" at burketown e.g. what are they like to work for (conditions etc), the name of the chief pilot, how many people they employ, aircraft types?
Just trying to get a heads up before I send them a resume.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Hairy.
Just trying to get a heads up before I send them a resume.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Hairy.
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Yeah good post
Obviously if you know thay havn't go any jobs going then you must know something about the company
All he asked for was a bit of info!
Hairy
Sorry mate don't know much about the company but passed through burketown not long ago and they had two Navajo's/Chieftan's (Sorry didnt take notice of which it was) and a Baron. I think there may have also been a Bonanza there too. All aircraft looked in pretty good nick (for piston twins and the area of opperation). Thats about all i know but best of luck with them or anyone else.
Cheers
Rail
Yeah good post
Obviously if you know thay havn't go any jobs going then you must know something about the company All he asked for was a bit of info!Hairy
Sorry mate don't know much about the company but passed through burketown not long ago and they had two Navajo's/Chieftan's (Sorry didnt take notice of which it was) and a Baron. I think there may have also been a Bonanza there too. All aircraft looked in pretty good nick (for piston twins and the area of opperation). Thats about all i know but best of luck with them or anyone else.
Cheers
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First of all i was just trying to help the guy out and second i dont know about you but ive got a lot better things to do with my time than proof read my posts on a chat forum. You obviously managed to work it out.
First of all i was just trying to help the guy out and second i dont know about you but ive got a lot better things to do with my time than proof read my posts on a chat forum. You obviously managed to work it out.
Savannah...
Yeah they seem like a good bunch. spoke to Paul about getting work last year, very nice bloke and down to earth. Not sure what the pay or operations are like in great detail.
They have also a base in Borroloola (NT) but the main ops are in Burketown (and to a lesser extent Mt Isa where they maintain their fleet).
Otherwise seeing and talking to the guys that work there they have a fairly quick progression, onto twins probably because you have to live in the sticks forever. but hey if you like dat chieftain bloke, then go for it.
Dj Dave
Yeah they seem like a good bunch. spoke to Paul about getting work last year, very nice bloke and down to earth. Not sure what the pay or operations are like in great detail.
They have also a base in Borroloola (NT) but the main ops are in Burketown (and to a lesser extent Mt Isa where they maintain their fleet).
Otherwise seeing and talking to the guys that work there they have a fairly quick progression, onto twins probably because you have to live in the sticks forever. but hey if you like dat chieftain bloke, then go for it.
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User strongly advised any intending pilot applicant reasearch employment terms and conditions prior to accepting employment.
Woomera
User strongly advised any intending pilot applicant reasearch employment terms and conditions prior to accepting employment.
Woomera
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Savannah Aviation
G'day.
I can concur with the above post being factual and not in any way an exaggeration..............
If you are looking to send in a resume Hairy, it might be handy if you outline your other skills in addition to flying. Any skills are certain to come in handy when you find yourself building/painting/cooking guests breakfast that is when your on your "day off".
Working and living in "savannah-world" as it becomes known makes the tv show survivor look lame in comparison........
One to stick clear of!
I can concur with the above post being factual and not in any way an exaggeration..............
If you are looking to send in a resume Hairy, it might be handy if you outline your other skills in addition to flying. Any skills are certain to come in handy when you find yourself building/painting/cooking guests breakfast that is when your on your "day off".
Working and living in "savannah-world" as it becomes known makes the tv show survivor look lame in comparison........
One to stick clear of!
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I hate hearing these kinds of stories. I hope the person(s) involved get their fair dose of karma back for all these evil wrong doings if it is true. GA doesnt need that sort of sillyness.
Pilots are people, not scum of the Earth...
Pilots are people, not scum of the Earth...
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Hello Hairy and people!
I know a lot of guys who use to fly there and all have left in dismay at the way they were treated and how the outfit was run.
at this place you will:
1. be payed around $300 a week. try living on that in Burketown, normanton or worse Borooloola.
2. Pay for your own ENDORSMENTS.
3. PAY for your own IFR RENEWALS every year despite flying IFR.
4. Get NO PAID HOLIDAYS despite signing a full time declaration when starting (mmmm i wonder if this is illegal?)
5. Get NO support on any issue that you would expect as a line pilot, from the appropriate people.
6. Learn many other skills such as car washing, lawn mowning, fence pitiching etc (you can guess whos things these are)
The aircraft aren't flash from what I have heard and seen in pics.
If you hairy or anyone dont believe me (which is your right) then ring around and do a lot of research on the company! the chief pilot! and conditions. and you many be surprised and shocked.
Talk to many people as possible. Ex pilots are a great resource of info. I believe many have left to the opposition in ISA so this would be a good place to start. If there arnt any of there ex-pilots there anymore I am sure they (the current guys) could let you know where they have moved onto.
Also chat to the local engineers in ISA and Nth Qld and you may be surprised also.
Time for people to be aware of companies they aspire to work for.
We in GA have to stick together.
fly safe.
Oz_Superman
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I know a lot of guys who use to fly there and all have left in dismay at the way they were treated and how the outfit was run.
at this place you will:
1. be payed around $300 a week. try living on that in Burketown, normanton or worse Borooloola.
2. Pay for your own ENDORSMENTS.
3. PAY for your own IFR RENEWALS every year despite flying IFR.
4. Get NO PAID HOLIDAYS despite signing a full time declaration when starting (mmmm i wonder if this is illegal?)
5. Get NO support on any issue that you would expect as a line pilot, from the appropriate people.
6. Learn many other skills such as car washing, lawn mowning, fence pitiching etc (you can guess whos things these are)
The aircraft aren't flash from what I have heard and seen in pics.
If you hairy or anyone dont believe me (which is your right) then ring around and do a lot of research on the company! the chief pilot! and conditions. and you many be surprised and shocked.
Talk to many people as possible. Ex pilots are a great resource of info. I believe many have left to the opposition in ISA so this would be a good place to start. If there arnt any of there ex-pilots there anymore I am sure they (the current guys) could let you know where they have moved onto.
Also chat to the local engineers in ISA and Nth Qld and you may be surprised also.
Time for people to be aware of companies they aspire to work for.
We in GA have to stick together.
fly safe.
Oz_Superman
(Fighting for Truth, Justice in a NON-GA Way!!!)
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Yeah I agree Poita!
I hate hearing these things too but can also tell you they are true.
I worked up noth in Borroloola for years with another comany and use to watch what these poor guys who were based in the loo go though.
GA is tuff but this was shocking. I use to watch one of there guys have to walk the 3km from the company house to the airport every day (yes even in the wet season). Had to himself end up finding a bike to pedal to the airport after a few weeks.
One time it was flooded in the loo and cut the roads (quite literally) Solution, from the boss. he was told and had to! sleep in the office at the a-port for a week. Yes true story.
I hate hearing these things too but can also tell you they are true.
I worked up noth in Borroloola for years with another comany and use to watch what these poor guys who were based in the loo go though.
GA is tuff but this was shocking. I use to watch one of there guys have to walk the 3km from the company house to the airport every day (yes even in the wet season). Had to himself end up finding a bike to pedal to the airport after a few weeks.
One time it was flooded in the loo and cut the roads (quite literally) Solution, from the boss. he was told and had to! sleep in the office at the a-port for a week. Yes true story.
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I called this company a few years back for a job and spoke to the C.P When I asked about the pay he told me he didn't handle that part and wasn't sure. I questioned whether it was close to 38k and his reply was " yeah, something like that"
Found out later from a guy who used to work there it was $23,000 !!!
Found out later from a guy who used to work there it was $23,000 !!!
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" yeah, something like that"
Found out later from a guy who used to work there it was $23,000 !!!
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Thats if your lucky. Minus the $1000 for endoresements, the same for renewal and base check.....plus anything else they think is justified.......
He knows exactly what he pays!
Yes, I can also concur about this mob.
I almost worked there but thankfully went to the opposition.
Got to know many of the guys there very well and all said the same things. NOT good conditions at all!
When I was up there I personally saw them have two gear up landings as well as a total right off of a baron when a inexperienced pilot ran off a runway just north of the ISA.
Best decision I every made and would advise people to do the same.
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" yeah, something like that"
Found out later from a guy who used to work there it was $23,000 !!!
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Thats if your lucky. Minus the $1000 for endoresements, the same for renewal and base check.....plus anything else they think is justified.......
He knows exactly what he pays!
Yes, I can also concur about this mob.
I almost worked there but thankfully went to the opposition.
Got to know many of the guys there very well and all said the same things. NOT good conditions at all!
When I was up there I personally saw them have two gear up landings as well as a total right off of a baron when a inexperienced pilot ran off a runway just north of the ISA.
Best decision I every made and would advise people to do the same.
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come On Grrowler!
I agree Ga is tuff and just because most people (which is really not correct, more like some people) move on to good things, doesnt mean it should be fine for these sort of companies to get away with there illeagal practices.
That only harms us all if we accept it and say, "well thats ok".
I also know people who have worked there and I think it is crap that they get away with this sort of stuff! (illegal pays, conditions, maitenance, flying attiudes and policies!)
It will come back to bite them and by the sound of it, it is slowly coming to the surface.
Good to hear and from the info I had back I would encourage as many people as possible to find out info on the CP.! Would be surprised what you woud hear back. I like many, want a job to get the old multi up but after hearing the stories from ex-guys from there think there is more to life/flying than this place!.
As you say, Make your own decision!!!!
I agree Ga is tuff and just because most people (which is really not correct, more like some people) move on to good things, doesnt mean it should be fine for these sort of companies to get away with there illeagal practices.
That only harms us all if we accept it and say, "well thats ok".
I also know people who have worked there and I think it is crap that they get away with this sort of stuff! (illegal pays, conditions, maitenance, flying attiudes and policies!)
It will come back to bite them and by the sound of it, it is slowly coming to the surface.
Good to hear and from the info I had back I would encourage as many people as possible to find out info on the CP.! Would be surprised what you woud hear back. I like many, want a job to get the old multi up but after hearing the stories from ex-guys from there think there is more to life/flying than this place!.
As you say, Make your own decision!!!!
cunningham
"Found out later from a guy who used to work there it was $23,000"
Lead to believe that this amount is an after tax wage plus deductions made for rent and electricity provided.
Based on my calculations this comes to about $36000pa Gross.
Not bad for GA
"Found out later from a guy who used to work there it was $23,000"
Lead to believe that this amount is an after tax wage plus deductions made for rent and electricity provided.
Based on my calculations this comes to about $36000pa Gross.
Not bad for GA
RedBeacon, yeah you're right, rereading my post without the beer goggles on does make it look a little ugly. I think I'll get rid of it... The original purpose was to post the information I had heard, whether positive or negative, so ppl can make their own decisions.
What I meant to say was the person I know never had a bad word to say about them, and is now off doing bigger and better things.
However, I have heard from other sources that the conditions are abysmal and illegal.
What I meant to say was the person I know never had a bad word to say about them, and is now off doing bigger and better things.
However, I have heard from other sources that the conditions are abysmal and illegal.
SPEEDJET,
"Lead to believe that this amount is an after tax wage plus deductions made for rent and electricity provided"
YES!!! But i think you will find that you do not get a payslip that outlines the above mentioned deduction (or one at all) and furthermore would you really want to actually fork out the money from your miniscule wage for the accomodation they give you!!!!
Its just an excuse to pay you 4/5ths of Cr@p all.
"Lead to believe that this amount is an after tax wage plus deductions made for rent and electricity provided"
YES!!! But i think you will find that you do not get a payslip that outlines the above mentioned deduction (or one at all) and furthermore would you really want to actually fork out the money from your miniscule wage for the accomodation they give you!!!!
Its just an excuse to pay you 4/5ths of Cr@p all.
DUXNUTZ
A detailed pay slip outlining all deductions is a legal requirement in Australia. If what you have said is true, I would report them to the Australian Taxation Office as there is a very hefty fine and they don’t treat offenders lightly especially if they are dodging paying workers income tax to the ATO by doing this.
YES!!! But i think you will find that you do not get a payslip that outlines the above mentioned deduction (or one at all)
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Not taking any sides in this petty session.
But a few years ago, if you were a low time driver and wanted to get 900+ Multi a year, this was the place to go.
Beats sitting around in a capital city with a thumb up you ar#% waiting for a dream job to appear.
I believe the conditions were not the greatest, but you had a good group of guys/gals to work and socialise with.
A lot of people who have worked there have all progressed onto bigger things (regardless of whether or not you bingled an a/c).
So how many seconds does it take for the B-58's gear to retract P.P.?
But a few years ago, if you were a low time driver and wanted to get 900+ Multi a year, this was the place to go.
Beats sitting around in a capital city with a thumb up you ar#% waiting for a dream job to appear.
I believe the conditions were not the greatest, but you had a good group of guys/gals to work and socialise with.
A lot of people who have worked there have all progressed onto bigger things (regardless of whether or not you bingled an a/c).
So how many seconds does it take for the B-58's gear to retract P.P.?
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Weather Or not someone moves onto bigger better thinigs Is not really the point here.
Many many people (infact most I believe If they have complete persistance and dedication to there ultimate goal) move onto bigger things, weather it be regionals, majors, frieght operators etc. That I think, is more to the credit of the individual not with any credit to these companies......
The issues of this thread, are from numerous people (including myself ) pointing out that these sort of companies should not get away with the constant explotation of young, motivated, hour chasing guys like we all are.
Weather or not you get some hours is one thing, but how you live, get payed, what type of mainted machine you fly and the attitude and treatment by the owners and CP, IS a major point.
Many of us, again and again, run into these companies not knowing the full extent of these issues and should be warned!
Again dont believe me, just do your homework, Ring around the places already suggested on this thread and ask away!!!!!
we in GA must stick together!!!!
fly safe.
Oz_Superman
(Fighting for Truth, Justice in a NON-GA Way!!!)
Many many people (infact most I believe If they have complete persistance and dedication to there ultimate goal) move onto bigger things, weather it be regionals, majors, frieght operators etc. That I think, is more to the credit of the individual not with any credit to these companies......
The issues of this thread, are from numerous people (including myself ) pointing out that these sort of companies should not get away with the constant explotation of young, motivated, hour chasing guys like we all are.
Weather or not you get some hours is one thing, but how you live, get payed, what type of mainted machine you fly and the attitude and treatment by the owners and CP, IS a major point.
Many of us, again and again, run into these companies not knowing the full extent of these issues and should be warned!
Again dont believe me, just do your homework, Ring around the places already suggested on this thread and ask away!!!!!
we in GA must stick together!!!!
fly safe.
Oz_Superman
(Fighting for Truth, Justice in a NON-GA Way!!!)