Eagle Interview

[BattleSTARGalatica]

Not sure if you had interview yet or what but eagle pilots are the biggest bunch of pratts around. believe me.....been there done that. I wish I had stayed flying in GA. Lowest payed most work. Stick to the pistons buddy

[loose unit]

Battle - What are you on?? Sounds like you had too good a run in GA to me... Sure Eagle were at the bottom of my airline list but they are an airline... benefits come with that.
No more fighting your GA boss for a pay rise so you can put some descent food on the table (although most operators know we just wanna be able to buy more booze) Then there's the annual leave, what a fight that was every year... working on public holidays... try getting ya day in lieu from your GA boss for that!!! More trouble than it's worth.
As I said Eagle were at the lower end of my airline preferences (that's just my opinion) but at the end of the day they are an airline. You get paid, annual leave, days in lieu, a trip to the states, new plane, and ceap travel... the downside is you could end up in a cr ppy base... but at least you don't have to pay for your type rating. On the 'Eagle pilot's are prat's' line... pilot's are people, every airline has prat's (be it that eagle have more than their share??)
To me GA operators were bigger prat's... You have to fly single pilot at night in a cra py light twin with no de-ice gear. Our boss thought we were all there for the love of it... they knew that they had more guys waiting in line hanging out to get some hours... they could screw you in every way possible... With all this airline hiring I hope things in GA chage.
Off the Eagle subject and onto GA... how many if any pilot's in GA are ALPA members?? would there even be a benefit?? maybe worth looking at??

[Thump & Go]

Hey Starbuck

Is that you TD? So sorry you couldn't make the grade of pratt that was required.............baha

Sheberight - there's no reason for ex/current EAG employees to put up a defence when there dealing with intellectual sea-monkeys. You sum it up nicely at the beginning of your last paragraph

who cares what you fly

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Good posts guys

????? really????go back & read the 4 previous pages, no-one's said anything new for a month! What we have is a bunch of Aztec/Islander ect drivers stuck in GA crapping on, under the misconception that it matters what you fly and who you fly for and, that someone, anyone(mummy!!!) cares about their/your views on EAG interview process & employment conditions. If you want a good regional operator, go to Chats, if you want to worry about the finances of your company/lack of seniority system/low pay/but work with a good bunch, go to Origin (no offence intended guys), the majority of you will(if you make it) end up somewhere in the middle with Link. That is an incontestable fact.

Thump

ps: horror of horrors!!! Mt Chook have gone to a 2 day interview....with a group(y) session - NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Lets start a post about it!
Looks like you'll all have to narrow your options down again guys.


pps: you don't actually pay the $10

[splatgothebugs]

Yeah thats about enough of the EAG bashing, every company has its up and downs, pratts and non pratts get over it.....................

Have you ever done a head count on how many EAG pilots get commands with in two years or how many of them move on to bigger and better things before any of there other link counterparts???????????????

Do the math and I think you will find EAG comes out on top. So if your decission on what company you prefer should be based on what you want out of your career. If you want to stay in props go to NSN or Cook there is absolutley nothing wrong with that and likewise there is nothing wrong with going to EAG and getting out into something bigger sooner.

Those out there who tend to knock companies are the people who were told to take a walk or UNFOURTUNATLEY never got an interview and are now bitter.

I say to you all with attitudes, GET OVER IT if your not happy that you are in a job you enjoy wether that be GA, EAG, NSN, COOK OR ORG you should be re thinking your career choice.

LOOSE UNIT..........................if I had my time again in GA I would be joining ALPA its not much of your pay and the benifits that come along with it are very useful especially the cheap life insurance.

splat

[loose unit]

Apparently Eagle rang around for interviews again today... can anyone confirm/deny?? how many more qualified pilots are out there?? shorely everyone's gonna have to lower their requirements soon.

[BattleSTARGalatica]

thumper.
so the chook has obviously noticed what pilots eagle have been churning out and opted for a bit of the same. The 3 day thing doesnt work. If they keep applying the 'high' standard which is required they wont employ anyone. there is no one to choose from these days. Just watch, eagle, cook,nelson, origin full of aussies sponging kiwi's jobs in about a year. Good work on the trans tasman agreement,

[Rollie Hea Hea]

Sup my homboyz got the big call up from my mates at eagle today got my interview in three weeks, think redgy a bit pissed cos he never got a call think he mite of put somthing in my mash at dinner cos it was a bit salty anyways I'm going be studying my brains out for all of their tricky questions like " Why do Air NZ load there Long haul jet wiv a rearward CoG" "How many Sats you need fot RAIM'' but one of my special friends got asked two of the hardest one's of all "Do you have a girl friend or boy friend? and the hardest one was "Do you have any skelton's in your closet (paues) like speeding tickets"
Well I dont have any in my closet but one time I did a poo in redgy's dose that count?
Can any one tell if I'm allowed to have my bib on at the group talky thing cos if there's any girls there I mite start to dribble on my flash as suit.
Anyway I'm of to practice my new trick, I here there's a pool at the flash as place where we get intervied so when they ask me what my interests are I can say pimping with the hoes round the pool at the IHC and doing this!............................
Then I'm gona roll right on out the door in my wheel chair and show them my reverse backflip with a twist (while still in my wheelchair) into the pool
Dam I am soo in

[kavu]

Well Eagle are certainly moving along quite nicely at the moment. Seems to be quite a lot of interviewing going on there.

Lot's of F/O's that are contract are making it onto the full-time employment list making room for more contract F/O's to come in.

Also the number of Captain positions that are being advertised is quite a lot.

With that in mind Eagle are the company for moving you through the ranks. Air Nelson is a little slower and Mt Cook is very slow.

Each airline has it's own positives and negatives to go along with it but I think for the general pilot who wants to more along then Eagle would certainly be a front runner.

Let's hope that when Air NZ rings up in the following months then there will be more movement for everybody.

Cathay hopefully will get going again by the end of the year and start interviewing with intent.

Good luck guy/gals with the interviews. Do some study on what Eagle fly and also about the company. Quite a few complaints have come from above saying that the guys/gals that they interview know nothing about Eagle or what they fly.

Find out some facts about the 1900D. You don't have to find out every little detail but just the general stuff. What type of engines, pressurised or not, average flying sectors, where they fly. What does the bent thing on the end of the wing do, what do the bits and pieces that hang off the back of the fuselage do, what are they called.

Cheers

Kavu

[VH-VIN]

Some interesting posts on what sort of company Eagle is, and what they are like to work for.
From what have seen these companys are what you make of them.
If you go in there with a good attitude and give it your best shot, try not to get involved in all the all the negitive stuff that goes around you will get allot out of the job.
Its intersesting, you can have two guys working for the same outfit, one hates it and the other loves it. Its normally attitude.
There is no dout that you do often grow out of a company or get bored, the best thing is to move on and dont take everyone down with you.
I think this applys to GA as well.
GA is hard work but often can be some of the rewarding flying you will ever do. Try to make the most of it.
As for all the guys and girls getting into Eagle well done, you will learn some great skills, work with some good peolpe and fly a nice aircraft in the best country in the world!!

[BattleSTARGalatica]

kavu,
the only bent things on those ugly heaps is the pilots. at the end of the day as long as the thing flies, who cares. you learn that stuff on the condensed ground course.

I do agree those who work for eagle aeroclub get commands quicker than other regionals but I felt I was still in Ga with the work you had to do. Only my thoughts
The questions they asked at the interview where inappropriate and down right rude. get a reality check

[kavu]

BattleSTARGalatica

In reply to your

"the only bent things on those ugly heaps is the pilots. at the end of the day as long as the thing flies, who cares. you learn that stuff on the condensed ground course."

You are right - you do learn those things on the condensed ground course

BUT

They ask that sort of thing in the interview. It gives them more questions from which to ask. Usually goes like:

"What do you know about the 1900?"

Dumb person number 1 "It's got 19 pax seats"

Correct answer but you could give a few more facts and figures. Don't have to name everything but a better general description.

Also in reply to your above statement.

"the only bent things on those ugly heaps is the pilots"

"You're only bent if you take it not give it"

[loose unit]

In how many other professions are you expected to take three days off work, pay for suit hire and pay for travel to the interview?? Lawyer, doctor, nurse, carpenter??? What the FU K is wrong with this industry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Don Won]

Kavu, that is some excelent advice to those who want in, know bit about the "float" best just to ask somone who already flys it ie what the stab things are for, EGPWS, what type of engs bla bla and they are hot on IF law stuff too.

Also the ring masters of the eagle circus like you to know abit about the company, this is where I think our Oz friends find it a bit harder, but know worries uncle Donny can help here too.....
When chopper asks "Can you tell us what you know about eagle''
Sit back, pull out your penut slab take a big bite and start like this

"Well in recent years the company used to opperate Bandits and Metros, some of the highest time in the world in fact, the fleet became unreliabe and unsafe, with a fleet replacment looming little if any preventive maintaince was carried out , during this time the company incounted many incedents even having to make a wheels up landing in one of their Metros"
(more penut slab)
"The company now enjoys a bad rep around NZ and beyond with many occurences of serious misconduct of flight crew and management most of which have lead to dismisal, of the 100 or so pilots in the company the good one's are few and far between".

[Sqwark2000]

Loose Unit,

In an industry that is still in the over-supply/less demand side of the equation, one should not expect the world to provide you with your oyster. If you want to work for a company and they invite you to be interviewed then be grateful for the opportunity. Different companies have different methods of hiring so adapt as required.

If you are aware of a particular process for a particualr company AND you WISH to participate then be prepared. Have some annual leave owing for the interview and subsequent ground course if you are successful, have some funds prepared for suit hire if required etc.

Don Won

The actions of a few, on one or two occasions, does not make for a company with good pilots few & far between. All companies have their black sheep who upset the company rep.

BattleSTAR

As for "the only bent things in the Beech is the pilots" call, you sir!, are a dead cert f.u.c.k. knuckle whose attitude probably shone through during your interview, and therefore deserved your off & die letter.

None of my friends, in recent experience, has been asked any rude questions that may have been asked in the very distant past. If you got some, then it was probably, again, a reflection of your attitude/personality

Get lost drop kick!

S2K

[Six Lima]

Nicely put S2K! I'm pretty sure you'll find Eagle have tidied their act up recently re the interview process, no need to panic about offensive questions. At the interview itself, all they're interested in is giving you the "Is he a good bastard?" test, making sure your IFR knowledge is up to scratch, and that you have taken an interest in the company. Not difficult.

[Thump & Go]

Give me an 'S', give me a '2', give me a 'K', GOOOO S2K!!!!!!

Whoa there big fella, stay off the 'meth' prior to posting on PPrune. I'm still not sure it's you but I'd have to agree whole heartedly with your sentiments.

Thump

ps: still laughing!!

[flyingkiwi]

BattleStar out of interest who are you flying with now. And how the hell did you actually get a job with your attitude, must be a good actor. But then i know that right jerks somehow get into any airline 3 day interview or not.

As for Eag bashing, I figure you guys have either been rejected or havnt even been called for an interview. I did just under 3 years at eagle and had a fantastic time. the crews were great. and of those three years just under 2 were as a captain. Im now working for Cathay whom at the time were only hiring Captains, so im pretty glad i wasnt in NSN or MTChook as i wouldnt even have got an interview.

Crap bases, I dont think you hear to may KKE or BHM guys complain, come to that matter how often do you see slots open up for cmds in Whakatane. My only regret when i was in KKE and WRE bases was that i didnt buy a boat.

Best of luck for the guys with interviews. pm if you have one i have some old stuff that may be usefull.

FK
ps any actual Eagle drivers can you pm im after the email or contact address of a couple of drivers id love to get in touch with

[VneII]

Battlestar trancist???

Battlestar (go back and watch the show, its about working together to achieve a common goal!)

full of aussies sponging kiwi's jobs in about a year

I hate to break it to you mate but there are sooooo many kiwis flying in Oz I'm supprised you blokes have any pilots left. Aussie GA is about the only industry I know that doesn't discriminate against kiwis, we are all working together to get the job done. In fact I know a good bloke who came to OZ to get his TT and Multi up and then went back to NZ to get an Eagle gernzy (g'day Pantyripper). I would hope that any aussie applying for a job in NZ would have as much chance as what a Kiwi does in OZ, ie the same as everyone else.

Grow up!

VneII

[NoseGear]

Flyingkiwi, mate, hook, line and sinker!!

Have fun at CX! Nice day here today aye?

Nosey

PS. Agree that (Em)Battledstar Galactica is a "little" over the top.......he spelt his own name wrong though, so what do you expect!!!

[CT7]

Puinarny

Nelson is a hick town!

Don Won

I'm pretty sure they only ring if there is a "flag" on yer case file. Uncle Koru didn't ring mine.....

Guys Guys, whatever you get on, just make it the best job you can while you plan your next move. Most regionals know that they are just stepping stones to the no-prop brigade.

Eg gets a lot because their minimums are lower than Nsn.
Nsn gets a few less because Eg has taken a few from their pool as well.
Cook gets less cos you gotta be a southie.
Origin will take whoever they can get.

If ya see another crew in an airport snack bar (can't really call them any better) sit down and have a good old chin-wag. You might surprise them..plus you can check the hostie out from a closer distance