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yyzshill 25th Apr 2023 12:05


Originally Posted by bafanguy (Post 11425607)
Do you have the legal ability to live/work in the USA ? Do you have an FAA license ?

will have it through spouse, working on conversion course shortly

bafanguy 25th Apr 2023 21:18


Originally Posted by yyzshill (Post 11425702)
will have it through spouse, working on conversion course shortly

Understand. At the risk of telling you something you already know, are you using this process or something else ?

I'm not sure what the timeline is for this vs going to KMIA and getting an FAA ATPL at a training company. If you have a TCCA CPL the process might be different ?:

https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/...AC_61-135A.pdf

FourStripes 27th Apr 2023 05:28

what is the breakdown of your hours? PIC/SIC/SIC jet/SIC turbine etc. Legacy carriers always like the breakdown.

FalseGS 27th Apr 2023 05:55

For pilots who have never worked previously with US carriers how do they navigate the PRIA requirements?

I dunno if that's the right term. But with no previous verifiable training and checking records, is that considered a disadvantage by the recruitment algorithms?

Seeing how competitive the field of candidates is, would this filter out new entrants into the US job market?

bafanguy 27th Apr 2023 09:34


Originally Posted by FalseGS (Post 11426421)
For pilots who have never worked previously with US carriers how do they navigate the PRIA requirements?

I dunno if that's the right term. But with no previous verifiable training and checking records, is that considered a disadvantage by the recruitment algorithms?

Seeing how competitive the field of candidates is, would this filter out new entrants into the US job market?


FGS,

IIUC, the PRIA request is only made after a pilot has been given a job offer and is part of the processing to begin employment. It has to be completed before a pilot "begins service as a pilot" or words to that effect. I don't think an airline jumps this hurdle for every applicant as part of the application process. And I think "begins service" means actually flying the line rather than starts training. But I assume an airline wants this PRIA/PRD stuff done before you start new-hire school. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

As for foreign pilots, there is an exception under PRIA:


"3.5.2 Good Faith Exception. You may allow an individual to begin service as a pilot 30 calendar-days after submitting the request without first obtaining information from a previous employer that has gone out of business, is in bankruptcy, or is a foreign government or operator that employed the individual if you make a documented attempt to obtain such information."

"5.7.1 PRIA Check. If you want to hire a pilot/applicant who has worked as a pilot for a foreign air carrier, you should request that individual’s PRIA records from the foreign carrier."

  1. 6.2.2 Terms Related to a Professional Pilot’s Employment.
    1. Placed into Service. Upon completion of the required company training, a pilot is released for service to begin performance as a pilot, usually under the supervision of a chief pilot or a training captain, for the prescribed period of time or flight hours. Under PRIA, a pilot cannot be placed into service until the hiring employer has requested, received, and evaluated the required records requested under PRIA, unless a good faith or other exception applies.



Advisory Circular 120-68G, June 21, 2016 (1 MB, PDF)

The whole thing is in transition from PRIA to the Pilot Records Database (PRD) and I haven't researched it to see if PRD is different from PRIA in that regard. I'd be surprised if it was:


"Operators currently comply with PRIA. Continued use of PRIA is required to support a successful transition to PRD. By September 9, 2024, the FAA intends to complete the transition from PRIA to PRD."

https://www.federalregister.gov/docu...cords-database

MarkerInbound 28th Apr 2023 04:01

Only US operators (121, 125, 135, 91k and some straight 91) are required to submit reports under part 111, the PRD. So there probably won’t be anything about a foreign pilot. Part 111 does say -

Reviewing entities may allow an individual to begin service as a pilot without first evaluating records in accordance with §111.105 only if the reviewing entity—

(a) Made a documented, good faith attempt to access all necessary information maintained in the PRD that the reviewing entity is required to evaluate; and

(b) Received notice from the Administrator that information is missing from the PRD pertaining to the individual’s employment history as a pilot.

So they have to ask and be told there are no records on that pilot.

bafanguy 28th Apr 2023 14:21

MI,

So it appears PRIA and PRD will treat a case like FalseGS the same way at the functional level, i.e., they can't penalize a pilot for information that isn't there ?

NGjockey 3rd May 2023 06:37

https://rishworthaviation.com/job/sk...t%20part%20121

It appears things are getting easier for foreigners...

FalseGS 3rd May 2023 17:15

I saw that as well.
I don't know how non Aussie pilots would qualify.
An under process/potential EB-2 application won't qualify for employment in any shape or form.
The E3 only applies to Australia.
Which visa sponsorship would they use to get your foot in the door?

The only upside with this program is their funding of your EB2 app. And I'm sure there will be riders attached to that.

A3X0 3rd May 2023 19:18

Cortes immigration law firm
 
Hello Everyone

i am looking at the possibility to get the green card/niw via the law CORTES IMMIGRATION.

Anyone can provide me with some information/feedback about this law firm? Competent? Customer service …

i would be grateful

thank you

a3xo

737pilotguy 3rd May 2023 19:22


Originally Posted by FalseGS (Post 11429614)
I saw that as well.
I don't know how non Aussie pilots would qualify.
An under process/potential EB-2 application won't qualify for employment in any shape or form.
The E3 only applies to Australia.
Which visa sponsorship would they use to get your foot in the door?

The only upside with this program is their funding of your EB2 app. And I'm sure there will be riders attached to that.

They don't even fund the process, they say they'll repay the expenses after training is complete. Plus, I'd imagine there is some kind of bond with Skywest afterwards.

FourStripes 4th May 2023 00:46


Originally Posted by NGjockey (Post 11429293)
https://rishworthaviation.com/job/sk...t%20part%20121

It appears things are getting easier for foreigners...

Looks like this program is most suitable for the Aussie pilots that need a sponsor for the E-3 visa.

The EB2-NIW visa is a self sponsoir visa, thus you don't need any airline to sponsor your petition. The only upside to this it seems is that they will reimburse the $700 filing fee for the EB2-NIW after you land stateside and ready to start and pass the training with them.

On the flipside, if you already have the visa and green card in hand you can choose any airline be it a regional or a legacy carrier, so no need to waste your time with rishworth unless you want your $700 as a refund.

Ecam321 4th May 2023 07:27


Originally Posted by NGjockey (Post 11429293)
https://rishworthaviation.com/job/sk...t%20part%20121

It appears things are getting easier for foreigners...

It appears that this might not even get off the ground in any meaningful way

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....87cc0e417.jpeg



737pilotguy 4th May 2023 10:49


Originally Posted by Ecam321 (Post 11429883)
It appears that this might not even get off the ground in any meaningful way

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....87cc0e417.jpeg

Exactly my thoughts as well. And it isn't the first time this part 135 stuff is attempted to bypass the 1,500 hours.

Ecam321 4th May 2023 11:03


Originally Posted by A3X0 (Post 11429667)
Hello Everyone

i am looking at the possibility to get the green card/niw via the law CORTES IMMIGRATION.

Anyone can provide me with some information/feedback about this law firm? Competent? Customer service …

i would be grateful

thank you

a3xo

I spoke with this firm before I started the process, I got the opinion that in terms of competency and customer service they would be great but they were very expensive, I also felt they would take on anyone regardless of their experience and qualifications. I went with a firm that was much much cheaper and wouldn’t take me as a client until they went through my qualifications and felt I had a fighting chance of success.

A3X0 4th May 2023 19:12


Originally Posted by Ecam321 (Post 11430018)
I spoke with this firm before I started the process, I got the opinion that in terms of competency and customer service they would be great but they were very expensive, I also felt they would take on anyone regardless of their experience and qualifications. I went with a firm that was much much cheaper and wouldn’t take me as a client until they went through my qualifications and felt I had a fighting chance of success.

thank you ECAM321 for your feedback. May I ask you please finally with which firm you are finally using?

Thank you once again

Ecam321 5th May 2023 02:10


Originally Posted by A3X0 (Post 11430193)
thank you ECAM321 for your feedback. May I ask you please finally with which firm you are finally using?

Thank you once again

Dunn Law, Bloomington Illinois

SIDS N STARS 5th May 2023 03:19

There is also an immigration lawyer who is registered on here. Maybe send him a PM and he can give you information specific to your situation.

I've heard good things about Harvey Law and Hayman Woodward, but I have not dealt with them personally

A3X0 5th May 2023 06:17

Thank you ECAM321 and SIDNSTARS for your precious feedback

By the way 3 firms have mentioned I am a good candidate and one mentioned that I am not

best regards

A3x0

Ecam321 5th May 2023 07:15


Originally Posted by A3X0 (Post 11430342)
Thank you ECAM321 and SIDNSTARS for your precious feedback

By the way 3 firms have mentioned I am a good candidate and one mentioned that I am not

best regards

A3x0

What I have learnt is that to be successful you need something extra other than 1000’s of hours. Any kind of training position will be of benefit, working in safety etc You have to be able to make the case that what you have to offer is going to benefit the US. and you have to have people to be able to write letters, testifying to that.

Good luck


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