ICAO to FAA CPL
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ICAO to FAA CPL
Hello. Been going around the internet to find information regarding the license conversion from ICAO To FAA. After researching online, I have a few questions that need some insight. I have 1500 Hrs TT, with 1250 on FBW jets (Only 250 TT on SE piston)
1. A lot of information is available online for the traditional piston to piston conversion for but for a jet pilot who has logged more hours on FBW jets than pistons, going back to piston engines and appearing for a check ride seems to be a bit difficult. Would anyone know if a simulator can be hired to carry out the check ride?
2. Any FTOs that have a good reputation when it comes to assisting in the conversion process?
3. A rough idea on the estimated timelines would be appreciated.
Any other information is also welcomed !
TIA !
1. A lot of information is available online for the traditional piston to piston conversion for but for a jet pilot who has logged more hours on FBW jets than pistons, going back to piston engines and appearing for a check ride seems to be a bit difficult. Would anyone know if a simulator can be hired to carry out the check ride?
2. Any FTOs that have a good reputation when it comes to assisting in the conversion process?
3. A rough idea on the estimated timelines would be appreciated.
Any other information is also welcomed !
TIA !
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I'm far from an expert on these matters but I'll kick off the discussion. If you Google "a320 faa type rating miami" (For discussion purposes, I'm assuming your FBW time is an A320), you'll get the names of a few organizations providing type ratings.
Unless something has changed, you'll have to take the ATP-CTP course before being allowed to take the FAA ATP written. I don't know if the Miami organizations provide the ATP-CTP course because I didn't dig that deeply into it.
And you'll need the FAA-required flight time breakdown for things like PIC and cross country, etc. Start reading here: https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/61.153
Some actual experts will come along to fill in the blanks in my attempt to provide info.
I'm far from an expert on these matters but I'll kick off the discussion. If you Google "a320 faa type rating miami" (For discussion purposes, I'm assuming your FBW time is an A320), you'll get the names of a few organizations providing type ratings.
Unless something has changed, you'll have to take the ATP-CTP course before being allowed to take the FAA ATP written. I don't know if the Miami organizations provide the ATP-CTP course because I didn't dig that deeply into it.
And you'll need the FAA-required flight time breakdown for things like PIC and cross country, etc. Start reading here: https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/14/61.153
Some actual experts will come along to fill in the blanks in my attempt to provide info.
Last edited by bafanguy; 31st May 2021 at 14:28.
Unfortunately conversation to CPL FAA can't be done in a simulator. Some aerobatic maneuvers are required as well as some map navigation. You will also need to do an IR test too.
ICAO ATPL to ATP is the only one that can be done in a simulator.
ICAO ATPL to ATP is the only one that can be done in a simulator.
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The problem with doing anything in a sim is the training center can only do what they have approved course syllabuses for. In theory you could do a VFR commercial type rating in a sim but I doubt any training center has a course for it. I'm thinking the "aerobatic maneuvers" Climb references are the chandelles and Lazy 8s but they are only required for a SE commercial. There is also the requirement to hold a FAA PVT to qualify for a commercial. You could get a 61.75 "based on" PVT but it's another hoop to jump through.
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Most of the jobs I've applied to in places like central and east Asia prefer the FAA / Transport Canada and EASA license for jobs. It seems their check pilots are authorized to conduct flight checks on these licenses only. Could be another reason that I am unaware of.
A universally accepted license such as the FAA would allow me to hop around in Asia and gain some good experience.
From what I have been told by a FSDO based in NY state, I would have to go through the CPL / ATP course on light aircraft in the US to get my license converted. Immediate conversion is only possible to the FAA PPL. That option is a bit unfeasible for me in terms of finances and time. Transferring the rating to the FAA license is additional cost. Quite steep if you ask me.
EASA is far too expensive to convert as well although they do facilitate the conversion process via simulators.
Suggestions for an economical conversion would be welcomed though. Someone suggested Maldives and Phillippines but I do not know the reputation of those licenses.
Many thanks !
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The problem with doing anything in a sim is the training center can only do what they have approved course syllabuses for. In theory you could do a VFR commercial type rating in a sim but I doubt any training center has a course for it. I'm thinking the "aerobatic maneuvers" Climb references are the chandelles and Lazy 8s but they are only required for a SE commercial. There is also the requirement to hold a FAA PVT to qualify for a commercial. You could get a 61.75 "based on" PVT but it's another hoop to jump through.
Apologies for not furnishing any details. I am currently flying as a first officer on the A320F. I hold an ICAO CPL (Not EASA). Almost done with 1500 hrs TT. 1000 + are on the A320F.
Most of the jobs I've applied to in places like central and east Asia prefer the FAA / Transport Canada and EASA license for jobs. It seems their check pilots are authorized to conduct flight checks on these licenses only. Could be another reason that I am unaware of.
A universally accepted license such as the FAA would allow me to hop around in Asia and gain some good experience.
From what I have been told by a FSDO based in NY state, I would have to go through the CPL / ATP course on light aircraft in the US to get my license converted. Immediate conversion is only possible to the FAA PPL. That option is a bit unfeasible for me in terms of finances and time. Transferring the rating to the FAA license is additional cost. Quite steep if you ask me.
EASA is far too expensive to convert as well although they do facilitate the conversion process via simulators.
Suggestions for an economical conversion would be welcomed though. Someone suggested Maldives and Phillippines but I do not know the reputation of those licenses.
Many thanks !
Most of the jobs I've applied to in places like central and east Asia prefer the FAA / Transport Canada and EASA license for jobs. It seems their check pilots are authorized to conduct flight checks on these licenses only. Could be another reason that I am unaware of.
A universally accepted license such as the FAA would allow me to hop around in Asia and gain some good experience.
From what I have been told by a FSDO based in NY state, I would have to go through the CPL / ATP course on light aircraft in the US to get my license converted. Immediate conversion is only possible to the FAA PPL. That option is a bit unfeasible for me in terms of finances and time. Transferring the rating to the FAA license is additional cost. Quite steep if you ask me.
EASA is far too expensive to convert as well although they do facilitate the conversion process via simulators.
Suggestions for an economical conversion would be welcomed though. Someone suggested Maldives and Phillippines but I do not know the reputation of those licenses.
Many thanks !
If the intent is to bounce around Asia as contract expat then it’d probably be worthwhile getting a common type on their FAA certificate combined with an ATP ride.
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