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Originally Posted by IlyaMuromets
(Post 11435256)
And so begins a managed transition in Minsk to incorporate Belarus into RF, prior to a managed transition in Moscow....
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Originally Posted by Video Mixdown
(Post 11435274)
Is that likely to have automatic support by the public and governmental/military organisations? If there was widespread opposition could it be crushed internally or would Moscow have to impose it by force, assuming they have the forces available to do so?
In old Luka's case, very short term I suspect. |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11434945)
Margarita Simonyan explained that those targets don't constitute the red lines that shouldn't be crossed…. |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11435100)
Another Storm Shadow hit being reported in Luhansk on the former Ukraine's National Guards military unit base, though for the weapon supposedly used the building appears relatively intact.
NB: the URL here was deleted because I don't yet have the right to post URLs!... Thanks in advance for any info. |
Originally Posted by jeallen01
(Post 11435317)
I apologise in advance if I've missed something, but how is Ukraine launching Stormshadow (or one of its variants?) - from aicraft or from some type of land vehicle?
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jeallen01,..refer to `caption competition`,p984,pic #19677..
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Originally Posted by jeallen01
(Post 11435317)
I apologise in advance if I've missed something, but how is Ukraine launching Stormshadow (or one of its variants?) - from aicraft or from some type of land vehicle?
Thanks in advance for any info. Earlier comments at the time of the announcement to supply stated that work had already been done to integrate on Mig 29. |
Originally Posted by Video Mixdown
(Post 11435274)
Is that likely to have automatic support by the public and governmental/military organisations? If there was widespread opposition could it be crushed internally or would Moscow have to impose it by force, assuming they have the forces available to do so?
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Lukashenko (Lukashenka in Belarus) has reappeared well, but with a bandaged wrist and hand. He has put the country on high alert as planes started falling out of nearby Russian skies.
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Originally Posted by IlyaMuromets
(Post 11435432)
As if public support has any relevance! But there has already been public opposition to Lukashenko, so his retirement on health grounds would surely be welcomed, no?IM
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Jeallen01
Pr00ne It is to heavy for the Mig 29, it is believed it is being carried by either the SU 27 or SU24 as they are able to carry the weight. As for proof that it was a storm shadow used, well they published this picture of parts found at the scene. https://sun6-20.userapi.com/impg/ual...CNs&type=album https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2abf8c9d91.png And if you look you can see it is a mounting lug https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...w-Hendon_1.jpg The Ukrainian Air Force’s MiG-29 Fulcrum fighter jets and Su-25 Frogfoot attack jets are likely unable to carry the Storm Shadow. Each missile weighs around almost 2,900 pounds. The heaviest weapons routinely carried by the MiG-29 and Su-25 are only around 1,100 pounds each. The heaviest-lifting stores pylons on the Frogfoot can only accommodate weapons of 1,100 pounds, and heavier weapons are rarely ever seen on early-model MiG-29s.This would seem to suggest that the Su-27 Flanker fighter jet and/or the Su-24 Fencer strike aircraft would be the likely candidates as Storm Shadow shooters. These larger aircraft have much greater payload capacities and the Su-24, in particular, can routinely carry weapons of over 3,300 pounds each. To what degree work has been completed to integrate the Storm Shadow on the aircraft that will carry it into combat is unclear. In theory, however, the process shouldn’t be too onerous, with the Storm Shadow missile being preprogrammed with target coordinates before flight, meaning there is no need for an interface allowing the aircraft to feed data in before launch. The missile’s range also promises to overhaul the strike capabilities of the Ukrainian Air Force in general, although much will depend on how many of these expensive weapons have actually been supplied. Each Storm Shadow is thought to cost around $2.5 million and, although an upgrade program is underway, the United Kingdom is already planning to replace these weapons, meaning they will become surplus to requirements from around 2030, in any case. |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11435100)
Another Storm Shadow hit being reported in Luhansk on the former Ukraine's National Guards military unit base, though for the weapon supposedly used the building appears relatively intact.
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11435500)
It is to heavy for the Mig 29, it is believed it is being carried by either the SU 27 or SU24 as they are able to carry the weight.
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Originally Posted by Wokkafans
(Post 11435263)
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Well, you are in a group of three Russian soldiers and the first gets hit by a dropped grenade, what do you do?
Answer: you take his weapon, then steal his IFAK (Immediate Use First Aid Kit) thus rendering him unable to help himself and abandon him. Ahhh.... who would be a Russian soldier... : as above link |
Ukraine using their Su-24 seems the most likely fit for SS launching, there was evidence they sent a Su-24 to Poland just before Christmas with a view to the Poles helping with re-config/re-work to be able to make use of NATO stand-off weapons systems.
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Big attack on Kyiv last night. Ukraine claims to have destroyed all 18 incoming missiles including six Kinzhal; Russia claims to have taken out a Patriot battery (but then they would):
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Originally Posted by pasta
(Post 11435533)
Big attack on Kyiv last night. Ukraine claims to have destroyed all 18 incoming missiles including six Kinzhal; Russia claims to have taken out a Patriot battery (but then they would):
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11435522)
Well, you are in a group of three Russian soldiers and the first gets hit by a dropped grenade, what do you do?
...and it's so strange that nobody ever seems to do that in these videos |
300th combat sortie completed... keep safe and keep going, look at the size of that watch.
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