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ORAC 14th September 2023 22:24

Considering that, during WWII, we had a team that moved Alexandria and hid the Suez Canal, it might seem more sensible to spend money on a dedicated decoy design and production unit than a couple of extra SAW units.

They might save a lot more units than bullets….

Ukrainian decoys continue to get better and better, seen here, an incredibly realistic Spoon Rest D (P-18) radar decoy, sporting a fully rotating array.

The unit was reportedly successful in fooling the Russians.

https://warfarehistorynetwork.com/ar...in-the-desert/
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Lomon 14th September 2023 22:25


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11502889)
At the Defence Security and Equipment International Exhibition and Conference (DSEI), representatives of the British Army said that the Hydra 400 "will offer the capabilities of an Apache attack helicopter but will fit in the trunk of a Land Rover".

I'm sure that a representative of the British Army should know that a Land Rover doesn't have "a trunk"

NutLoose 15th September 2023 01:14

And if it’s in a Landrover it won’t be ULEZ compliant.

Obba 15th September 2023 01:22

Not sure if this has been posted yet...



Beamr 15th September 2023 05:31

Russian landing ship Minsk after the missile attack. Toasted.



Buster Hyman 15th September 2023 07:15


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11503054)
Russian landing ship Minsk after the missile attack. Toasted.

Still looks water tight from that angle! Good to go! :ok::}

NutLoose 15th September 2023 09:19


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11503054)
Russian landing ship Minsk after the missile attack. Toasted.

https://twitter.com/front_ukrainian/...62949929574478

It is going to take forever to refloat and move her out of the dry dock with that piddly little hose. :O

However, It does explain the vessel parked across the front of the dock gates in the satellite images, it's a fire boat, also looking at the jet of water, it appears to be aimed at the adjacent dry dock where the submarine is situated.

Wokkafans 15th September 2023 11:45

​​​​​​​https://x.com/CovertShores/status/17...167688729?s=20

NutLoose 15th September 2023 11:49


Thanks for that, not seen it before, the way Russia is losing ships etc, in 2 - 3 years they will be lucky to have a Coracle in service, and the front should have moved past Moscow :)
His by now 3 or 4 year old BMW or other, will be sitting on bricks do to a lack of spares and he will be wiping his ass with Rubles, those being cheaper than toilet paper..
Solovyv will be still moaning at the loss of his villas on Lake Como and the fact the Italians are now housing migrants in them. ;)

ORAC 15th September 2023 12:40

He doesn’t just pull the pin, he then throws the grenade….

A typical day in Russia:

An occupier who returned from the front offered a boy to pull the pin of a grenade, but after the boy refused, he decided to do it himself.

The neighbors did not appreciate the game of the veteran.

ORAC 15th September 2023 13:11

Russia's Problems with Artillery Support Are Growing

There are major problems now with Russian artillery in Ukraine…..

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NutLoose 15th September 2023 13:31


These high grade steel alloys "have broad military applications: They are being used in artillery barrels, armored vehicles, body armor, and more. They cannot be substituted with ordinary bulk steel without catastrophically weakening the result. After Putin’s reforms cut off subsidized and “unprofitable” Russian military industries to cut costs, Russia’s military-grade steel industry essentially died entirely." (Daily KOS)
yes, the UK wouldn't do such a stupid thing as to close down our core steel production and flog off the remainder..... Would we. :rolleyes:



Lonewolf_50 15th September 2023 14:14


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11503283)
Russia's Problems with Artillery Support Are Growing
There are major problems now with Russian artillery in Ukraine…..

Do you mean to tell me that China can't make these steel alloys and sell them at a premium price to Russia?

​​​​​​​There are no likely sources of hard steel alloys for large scale exports to Russia. (Daily KOS) "Russia very likely has run through any stock of replacement barrels it may have stockpiled, and also has likely been keeping its 152 mm artillery fielded by cannibalizing parts from older towed howitzers." (Daily KOS).
Color me skeptical.

ORAC 15th September 2023 14:42

Some 🇺🇦Ukrainian media, citing their sources, report that yesterday an experimental "Sea Baby" (marine drone) of the Security Service of Ukraine damaged the 🇷🇺Russian missile ship "Samum".

As reported, not far from the entrance to the Sevastopol Bay "Sea Baby" hit the rear right part of the Russian ship, causing significant damage, the ship lost its course.

The Russians had to tow "Samum" for repairs with a large fairing on the stern and a crane on the starboard side.

For this attack, the Security Service of Ukraine used an experimental model of a marine drone, which is capable of operating in a storm, hiding from detection behind high waves. During the special operation, the height of the waves reached 1.5 - 2 m.

We are waiting for video confirmation.


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c503edf86a.png
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ACW342 15th September 2023 15:05

Wolkenkuckucksheim
 
Is this person living in Mr. Hitlers Wolkenkuckucksheim?

ORAC 15th September 2023 15:18

Mobilized Russians will not return home until the end of the war

This was announced by the Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense Andrei Kartapolov.

Mogwi 15th September 2023 15:39


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11502889)
I know somewhere which would be happy to do extended live trials over the next 6-24 months…



The British Army has unveiled the Hydra 400 drone, which can launch Brimstone missiles.

At the Defence Security and Equipment International Exhibition and Conference (DSEI), representatives of the British Army said that the Hydra 400 "will offer the capabilities of an Apache attack helicopter but will fit in the trunk of a Land Rover".

According to them, it takes only six minutes to prepare the unmanned aerial vehicle for launch. The Hydra 400 will be able to carry up to three Brimstone air-to-ground missiles and will be able to destroy enemy vehicles within a radius of more than 32 km.

So far, the Hydra 400 exists in the form of a prototype. By the end of the year, the British Army plans to test the unmanned aerial vehicle during military exercises.

However, according to the military, due to bureaucratic nuances, the drone is likely to enter service only in five years….




https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....488b7150c.jpeg

I recognise that parking lot. Seriously, it is about 1k from my present position - what a small world it is!

Mog

fdr 15th September 2023 16:11


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11503337)
Mobilized Russians will not return home until the end of the war

This was announced by the Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Defense Andrei Kartapolov.

Of course that would be the case, the prisoner exchange will happen after Vlad has popped over to The Hague for a wee chat. Oh, wait, Andrey says... what? Mobiks are planning to be on a... winning team?

As 200's or 300's they get home faster, and as POWs they get home without harm, and with some dignity intact. Decisions, decisions.

fdr 15th September 2023 16:17


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11503269)
He doesn’t just pull the pin, he then throws the grenade….



A typical day in Russia:

An occupier who returned from the front offered a boy to pull the pin of a grenade, but after the boy refused, he decided to do it himself.

The neighbors did not appreciate the game of the veteran.


Can they give these guys directions to Vosdvizhenka str. 1. Moscow 121019? or failing that, to 3, Ulitsa Ilyinka, 103132, Moscow. Its just across the sewer from the Kempinski hotel. Spreading the Mir, one grenade at a time.

kintyred 15th September 2023 16:42

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3294b027e.jpeg
Is that a very small drone or are those very big Lego bricks?


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