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ATSA1 14th June 2025 18:53

Has Iran got missiles capable of hitting Akrotiri?

fdr 14th June 2025 19:24

"well, they would say that wouldn't they... "

That would be a really unfortunate action by Iran, it would unite all against them, and they would have less support than they have already. It would get pretty hot around the area.

Biggus 14th June 2025 19:35

Pity we aren't sending any AEW aircraft to Cyprus - but then we have a "capability gap".

MAN777 14th June 2025 20:44

A few hundred mines dropped into the straits will stop the show for tankers, I hope there are "eyes on" the mine layers !

fdr 14th June 2025 22:51


Originally Posted by Deep Throat (Post 11900738)
It does not look very quiet

It operates in some of the worst water in the world for tracking, it has a quiet propulsion system in the later versions, and they have excellent sonar capabilities. They are likely to be nuclear munitions capable, and if they weren't, they will be before this tiff with Iran is over I would imagine. HDW/TKMS made good boats. Being small doesn't mean it can't bite.


ORAC 14th June 2025 23:21

The Times:

Britain on a war footing as it moves combat jets to Middle East

Britain is moving combat jets and other military aircraft to the Middle East just hours after Iran threatened to strike UK military bases in the region.

Sir Keir Starmer confirmed the military build-up yesterday as he revealed he had urged Binyamin Netanyahu to avoid a full-scale war with Tehran. However, Starmer refused to say whether Britain would assist Israel in shooting down Iranian missiles.

Speaking on his way to the G7 summit in Canada, which starts on Sunday, he said: “We are moving assets to the region, including jets, and that is for contingency support in the region. I will be clear-eyed in relation to our duties and obligations, and my duties as the prime minister of the United Kingdom.”….

The Ministry of Defence is sending an unspecified number of Eurofighter Typhoons to the region, as well as several Voyagers, which are air-to-air refuelling tankers. The UK already has a number of Typhoons and at least one #Voyager stationed in Cyprus, where they have been used in strikes on Isis militants as part of Operation Shader.

Downing Street #sources said the deployment of extra combat aircraft was a pre#cautionary measure, but the decision to bolster the UK’s military presence in the region is a clear sign that ministers increasingly fear the Israel-Iran conflict could soon drag in Israel’s western #partners…..




cynicalint 15th June 2025 00:26

Once again the UK armed forces are ready pull another failed PMs arse out of the fire…

Obba 15th June 2025 07:13

In regards to the F35's being shot down: Usual caveats apply...

It might be due to this post... httpshttps://x.com/amuse/status/1934114613878301000://x.com/amuse/status/1934114613878301000



Asturias56 15th June 2025 07:36


Originally Posted by cynicalint (Post 11901990)
Once again the UK armed forces are ready pull another failed PMs arse out of the fire…

exactly what was Stammer supposed to do about Iran & Israel that the last 8 PM's didn't manage?

CurlyB 15th June 2025 11:05

I don't understand why we are stretching our already thin armed forces to protect a known liar when we have a real threat of Russia on our doorstep.
Not to mention the amount of times Bibi slags off the UK without a modicum of gratitude to the amount of training and intelligence the IDF receives from the UK tax payer.

This is Iraq 2.0. It's all about regime change. Just a couple of months ago, the Americans acknowledge that the Iranians are not building nuclear weapons
https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF12106

Tehran has not made a decision to develop nuclear weapons, according to 2024 and 2025 public U.S. intelligence assessments.
That begs the question on the real reason for this attack. One theory is the legal troubles that have continuously surrounded Netanyahu which include corruption (after many delays, his trial is ment to begin this month but he's 'sick')
https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/article-857401

I think simplistically, Israel is an extension of the US in the ME which affords plausible deniability while keeping a hegemony over the regions resources. What other nation, let alone 1st world, have received so much military aid in the past few decades.

The only winners here are BAE, Lockheed, MBDA, Boeing, and a select few who get cushty board roles upon retirement from government. Meanwhile death rains down on Tehran and Tel-Aviv.

chevvron 15th June 2025 11:17


Originally Posted by Bob Viking (Post 11901717)
The UK is sending more FJs to ‘the Middle East’ region. I assume they mean Cyprus.

BV

What types are we talking about? Must be running short of Typhoons and I dare say F35b numbers will be reducing as they lose a few of those (on aircraft carrier deployments you always lose a few).The only aircraft left are Hawks; they've got rid of everything else.

Bob Viking 15th June 2025 11:21

Chevvron
 
Typhoon FGR4s. Numbers unknown.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/typh...show-of-force/

BV

El Grifo 15th June 2025 11:33


Originally Posted by Obba (Post 11902176)

Yep, I know that game.
My son often plays it :-)

chevvron 15th June 2025 11:34


Originally Posted by Bob Viking (Post 11902377)

And what about sufficient pilots to fly them?

Biggus 15th June 2025 11:35

Apparently they only need one pilot each, and I can't see any of them getting to Cyprus without a pilot on board.

fdr 15th June 2025 13:58


Originally Posted by Obba (Post 11902176)

It's great that Iran is able to use DCS even with sanctions going on. Was this the Botswanian F-35 version or the Somali ones?

Iran's attacks of civil centres seems to firmly put their leadership in the Russian version of ethics, not a great look, same bucket as North Korea.



Hangarless 15th June 2025 15:22

The US giving the Israelis bunker busting bombs and regime change are the talking points and discussions on the Sunday shows today.

Timelord 15th June 2025 15:34


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 11902373)
What types are we talking about? Must be running short of Typhoons and I dare say F35b numbers will be reducing as they lose a few of those (on aircraft carrier deployments you always lose a few).The only aircraft left are Hawks; they've got rid of everything else.

Must be the 4 plus Voyager that were in in the King’s Birthday flypast.

TEEEJ 15th June 2025 16:21


Originally Posted by ATSA1 (Post 11901731)
Has Iran got missiles capable of hitting Akrotiri?

Yes.

https://missilethreat.csis.org/country/iran/

sir 15th June 2025 16:39

I’d not have a problem with deploying to protect Akrotiri in case of Tehran overreaching, but I don’t support getting active on Israel’s behalf. They have started something that I really think they need to finish alone. Their choice.


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