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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
(Post 12043845)
Dropping a bunch of bombs on Iran won't make anything any better. I see no point in so doing.
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
(Post 12043845)
Dropping a bunch of bombs on Iran won't make anything any better. I see no point in so doing.
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There are further rumblings from students and dissidents, I wonder if there will be a coordinated effort with the boots on the ground being Persian slippers rather than Western boots after a little bombing?
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
(Post 12043845)
Dropping a bunch of bombs on Iran won't make anything any better. I see no point in so doing.
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Originally Posted by Hangarless
(Post 12043917)
So what should they do then, other than nothing?
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Originally Posted by Stuck On The Ground
(Post 12043925)
You are consistently Gung-Ho Hangarless. Why is that? Are you looking to commit US and other forces to another fruitless Middle East enterprise?
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RAF Lakenheath Asset Moves Update #FreeIran --- "Operation LION & SUN" --- Potential for quite a lot of movements from RAF Lakenheath in the next 24-48hrs. At present we have: 12x F-15E "Strike Eagle" (SJ) jets 12x F-35A "Lightning II" (HL) jets 13x F-22A "Raptor" (FF) jets Plus Lakenheath's own remaining complement of F-15E and F-35A jets, with potential support from up to 25 tankers at RAF Mildenhall, including: 3x KC-46A "Pegasus" 5x KC-135T "Stratotanker" 17x KC-135R "Stratotanker" I expect tomorrow will be a busy day Another Bombardier E-11A Battlefield Airborne Communications Node (BACN) is heading from CONUS to the Middle East/Europe theater. The plane is set to join 5 other BACN platforms already deployed in that region. The U.S. Air Force is known to operate 9 of these overall. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c5f64193b.jpeg [/QUOTE] |
Running another possible scenario.
If Hezbollah, supported by Iran, and the Houtis, supported by Iran, and Hamas, supported by Iran, fire missiles at Israel from specially hidden/disguised underground facilities, would it not be useful now to find out where Iran's missile launchers are located by getting them to fire some off? We have seen photos of underground tunnels in Iran lined with waiting missiles. Could these tunnel openings be what Israel (and by extension the US) would really like to hit this time around? |
Originally Posted by Hangarless
(Post 12043927)
LW said he thought there was no purpose in dropping bombs -so I ask him what is it he suggests what the US should be doing other than nothing?
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Wow ORAC, thank you for your detailed deployments of the Orbat. There is so much Open Press stuff available, that you cannot be accused of posting classified data. What this does indicate is a larger deployed US force than 2003 GW2. If you're taking bets on H-hour, I would go Sat or Sun night local. |
Two MAS flights earlier today (MH160 and MH156) KL to Jeddah and Doha each turned back to KL while well inside Sri Lankan/Indian airspace
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5e45c07102.jpg . Whatever has been brewing looks like it is close to boiling point now. |
Originally Posted by Hangarless
(Post 12043927)
LW said he thought there was no purpose in dropping bombs -so I ask him what is it he suggests what the US should be doing other than nothing?
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IDF announcement:
Following a situational assessment, it was determined that as of today (Saturday), at 08:00, immediate changes will be made to the Home Front Command Guidelines. As part of the changes, it was decided to shift all areas of the country from Full Activity to Essential Activity. The guidelines include: a prohibition on educational activities, gatherings, and workplaces, except for essential sectors. The public is required to follow the guidelines published on the official Home Front Command channels. Full guidelines will be updated on the National Emergency Portal and the Home Front Command app. In the last few minutes, sirens have sounded across the country, and a preliminary directive from the Home Front Command was distributed directly to mobile phones, instructing to remain in proximity to a protected space. This is an initiated alert whose purpose is to drill the public for the possibility of missile fire into our territory. The IDF emphasizes that, as of now, there is no need to stay inside protected spaces. |
With all those assets situated around the Middle East and southern Europe, I guess they had to go for it.
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Originally Posted by BBadanov
(Post 12044048)
With all those assets situated around the Middle East and southern Europe, I guess they had to go for it.
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Well if the US wasn’t involved they are now - Trump has put out a message saying the US has commenced combat operations.
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldT...47082884192486 |
Interesting how quickly Iran can implement a nuclear weapons program, considering that the USA obliterated it last year and are busy obliterating it today.
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Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 12044060)
Well if the US wasn’t involved they are now - Trump has put out a message saying the US has commenced combat operations.
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldT...47082884192486 |
Initial reporting is that first attacks on Iran were about 10am local - surprise, first rule of SMOFSCEFCA - hit 'em when they are not expecting it.
Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar supposedly evacuated, but presumably the Patriots would be manned. Report of one of the Iranian leadership killed in Tehran. |
IDF reporting Iranian ballistic missiles in the air - initial reports mentions "dozens".
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Originally Posted by BBadanov
(Post 12044071)
Initial reporting is that first attacks on Iran were about 10am local - surprise, first rule of SMOFSCEFCA - hit 'em when they are not expecting it.
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An attack contrary to international war, not that it will bother the Trump regime) with objectives that cannot be achieved by air power alone. Another ill thought through mess.
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Originally Posted by BANANASBANANAS
(Post 12044049)
IDF spokesman being quoted as saying ‘This is the beginning of a 4 day operation and at the end of it Iran will not look the same!’
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12 minutes, two hours, nine hours.
For a ballistic missile, a cruise missile or a drone to reach Israel from Iran. (Less presumably to US bases in the Gulf.) |
Talking of timings, its becoming a bit of a pattern the US starting their recent military ops on the weekend. Slower news cycle, or want to give the all important markets time to process the news? Weekend warriors...
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Press reporting that the first target at 10am in Tehran was the Ayatollah's compound.
Hope that was successful - a precursor for the people to demonstrate against the IRGC and rise up. Man in the street does not see much of destruction of far-flung nuclear facilities. |
As we've learned time and time again in the West - winning the war is easy, but winning the peace is much, much harder and just as important.
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Originally Posted by BBadanov
(Post 12044094)
Press reporting that the first target at 10am in Tehran was the Ayatollah's compound.
Hope that was successful - a precursor for the people to demonstrate against the IRGC and rise up. Man in the street does not see much of destruction of far-flung nuclear facilities. |
Yes, it's on
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I am sure I heard Sky report that the Ayotallah has chosen to go on holiday. Maybe adding some babushkas to his harem.
I see FR 24 has gone off line - interesting timing. |
Ramadan
An interesting time to launch the attack. Deliberate or just inevitable timing?
BV |
Someone who shall remain nameless told me that it would be on a Saturday so I looked at the phases of the moon. It's quite common for things to kick off when there is no moon (Bin Laden knock on the door for example) however the moon is approaching maximum illumination.
Well, it's a Saturday in broad daylight so kudos to them. |
Originally Posted by skua
(Post 12044133)
I see FR 24 has gone off line - interesting timing.
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Originally Posted by SWBKCB
(Post 12044149)
Working fine for me - Doha and Bahrain look closed, but seems business as usual-ish at DXB
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US Navy Q4 squawking 7700
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"Footage of an Iranian ballistic missile slamming into the headquarters of the US Navy's 5th Fleet at Naval Support Activity (NSA) Bahrain earlier today."
Video"Reports that an Iranian ballistic missile impacted in or near Muwaffaq Salti Air Base, Jordan, moments ago. The airbase was hosting dozens of USAF fighters surged to the area over the past few weeks." Video |
"Satellite image of Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's compound in Tehran. There are several destroyed buildings. While the current whereabouts of Iran's supreme leader are unknown, the compound is generally used as his official residence."
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....7b12bda08b.png |
MOD UAE statement...
The Ministry of Defence (MoD) announced that the UAE today was subjected to a blatant attack involving Iranian ballistic missiles, noting that UAE air defence systems dealt with the missiles with high efficiency and successfully intercepted a number of missiles. Authorities in the UAE also handled the fall of some missile debris in a residential area which resulted in some material damage. The fallen debris also resulted in one civilian death of an asian nationality. The authorities confirmed that the security situation in the UAE remains stable and that all concerned entities are monitoring developments around the clock. The Ministry strongly condemned the attack, affirming the UAE's categorical rejection of any targeting of civilian objects, facilities and national institutions. It stressed that such acts constitute a dangerous escalation and a cowardly act that threatens the safety of civilians and undermines stability. The Ministry further stated that the targeting represents a blatant violation of national sovereignty and international law, affirming that the UAE reserves its full right to respond to this escalation and to take all necessary measures to protect its territory, citizens and residents, and to safeguard its sovereignty, security and stability. The Ministry affirmed its full readiness and preparedness to deal with any threats, stressing that all necessary measures are being taken to firmly confront any attempts to undermine the country's security and stability. It added that the safety of citizens, residents and visitors remains a top priority that cannot be compromised. The Ministry urged the public to rely on official sources for information and to avoid spreading rumors or unverified reports. The Ministry also urged the public to obtain information from official sources within the UAE and to avoid spreading rumors or unverified information. |
The debris has to fall somewhere…
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVTNE...I2eDNsOGRvOA==
If anybody is smarter than me and can paste a link to the video without having to go to Instagram please help me. It shows a rocket fall to earth, relatively intact, after being intercepted. It’s not very far from the centre of Doha. It’s quite a scary sight. BV |
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