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larssnowpharter 26th March 2026 13:36


Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50 (Post 12059199)
They will learn and adapt. (Comment on their missile troubles, China).
As satisfying as the strike on the Naval Commander may have been for those trying to take out the chain of command, Next Man Up is what happens and they press on. This isn't a chess game where if you knock out the bishop there isn't another one to fill in behind.
Isn't some of that due to insurance groups not covering the ships?

It's complicated. However, Lloyds is still providing war risks insurance at around 7.5% of hull value.
Insurance is also available for transit through the SoH but - reportedly - has a low take up. I wonder why?

ORAC 26th March 2026 13:48


​​​​​​​....UAE rejects ceasefire with Iran and they will join the ground attack on Iran - Reuters/WSJ.

They demand Tehran’s full threat network be dismantled first.

Ambassador Yousef Al Otaiba confirms UAE will join efforts to reopen the Strait of Hormuz, a lifeline for global oil.

Also reaffirms a staggering $1.4 TRILLION UAE investment commitment in the United States.

UAE ambassador to the USA: https://archive.is/20260325173612/ht...-iran-ec229761


​​​​​​​The U.A.E. Stands Up to Iran

This war requires a conclusive outcome—one that addresses Tehran’s full range of threats.

The past 3½ weeks of war have confirmed what we have known for nearly 50 years—Iran’s revolution is a threat to global security and economic stability. We can’t let Iran hold the U.S., the United Arab Emirates and the global economy hostage.

A simple cease-fire isn’t enough. We need a conclusive outcome that addresses Iran’s full range of threats: nuclear capabilities, missiles, drones, terror proxies and blockades of international sea lanes.

Forty miles away, the U.A.E. stands on the front line of this conflict. Iran has launched more than 2,180 missiles and drones at the Emirates, far more than at any other country. We have one of the world’s most effective defense shields and intercept more than 95% of these attacks.

Beyond our borders, Iran is striking airports, seaports and energy infrastructure. It is blockading energy shipments and supplies for fertilizer and manufacturing and threatening theme parks and cultural sites worldwide through its proxy network.

We have hardened our infrastructure and built an oil pipeline to bypass the Strait of Hormuz. But the region needs a coordinated effort to reopen this vital passage and restore energy supplies to global consumers.

This isn’t a war we wanted. Until hours before the first strike, Emirati officials undertook intensive diplomatic efforts from Tehran to Washington. We made clear to the Iranians that in the event of a war, U.A.E. territory and airspace wouldn’t be used for strikes on Iran. We knew we would be Iran’s first choice of targets. Not only because we are so near, but because we are so different. The U.A.E. is a modern, progressive, prosperous Muslim society that delivers for its people. We empower women and welcome all faiths. The U.A.E. is the argument Iran can’t win, the idea it can’t accept.

The U.A.E. will endure. We will absorb this shock and accelerate economic diversification with new initiatives in artificial intelligence, renewable energy, life sciences and tourism. This includes the world’s largest data center complex, a new Guggenheim Museum and the Middle East’s first Disney theme park.

S&P Global Ratings reaffirmed the Emirates’ AA/A-1+ sovereign credit rating, citing our fiscal depth, diversified growth engines and proven ability to protect investments, even in crisis. Our airlines, Etihad and Emirates, are restoring schedules and resuming flights to the U.S.

We are equally committed to our investment plans in the U.S. Our $1.4 trillion commitment is firm. The stronger our economic ties to America, the stronger both nations become—and the clearer our message to those who seek to destabilize the region.

Iran’s nuclear capabilities have been degraded. Its proxies have been weakened. More needs to be done to remove the missile and drone threats. And we are ready to join an international initiative to reopen the strait and keep it open.

We aren’t asking the U.S. to carry the full burden. We are defending our people, protecting regional stability and global prosperity, and demonstrating that real alliances are built on cooperation and contribution, not dependency.

We want Iran as a normal neighbor. It can be reclusive and even unwelcoming, but it can’t attack its neighbors, blockade international waters, or export extremism. Building a fence around the problem and wishing it goes away isn’t the answer. It would simply defer the next crisis.

Mr. Otaiba is the U.A.E. ambassador to the U.S.
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ORAC 26th March 2026 13:52

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12:10

GOLD 87 USAF KC-135/R Stratotanker
MAZDA 31-34 flt x4 USMC F-35/C Lightnings

Airborne from RAF Mildenhall to tow towards the med for TDY to the middle east.


ORAC 26th March 2026 14:51


​​​​​​​An official from Iran’s Revolutionary Guards said the minimum age for participation in war-related support roles has been lowered to 12, according to remarks aired on state media.

Rahim Nadali, a cultural official with the Guards in Tehran, said an initiative called “For Iran” was recruiting participants to assist with activities such as patrols, checkpoints and logistics.

“Given that the age of those coming forward has dropped and they are asking to take part, we lowered the minimum age to 12,” he said, adding that 12- and 13-year-olds could now take part if they wished.

The comments were broadcast as part of state coverage of the war effort.

The move comes despite Iran’s commitments under the Convention on the Rights of the Child, which prohibits the use of children in military activities.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202603261604

just as a bit of history and as to what troops might find themselves confronting. BBC documentary about children on the frontline during the Iran-Iraq war.


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Icare9 26th March 2026 15:54

Re #4350 - the Temu Torpedo?

Geriaviator 26th March 2026 16:23

@LW50:

They will learn and adapt. (Comment on their missile troubles, China).
Just as the Russians have done in Ukraine. Yet again I wonder what hold Putin must hold over Trump, who has turned his back on Ukraine so enabling Putin to divert drones from Ukraine and send them and know-how to Iran to attack American assets and West-facing friendly countries in the Gulf ?

fdr 26th March 2026 17:24


Originally Posted by Geriaviator (Post 12059337)
@LW50:

Just as the Russians have done in Ukraine. Yet again I wonder what hold Putin must hold over Trump, who has turned his back on Ukraine so enabling Putin to divert drones from Ukraine and send them and know-how to Iran to attack American assets and West-facing friendly countries in the Gulf ?

WRT PRC, there is a unique level of disincentive to innovation within their defence forces, expect to see any innovation driven by the proxy, in this case Iran, which has mixed history in innovation. Authoritarian regimes tend to be incompatible with flexible thinking.

NVN was not an exception it was always a nationalist movement that happened to get support from the Soviet and PRC, but its people were more communal in nature than authoritarian droids. The greatest disservice the west can be to its own interests is to make the case for national unity of an oppressed group, which is what Bibi has forgotten from the history of Israel itself; uniting a population with a common hatred towards your own group doesn't end well (see Coalition Provisional Authority Order 1: De-Ba'athification of Iraqi Society; Coalition Provisional Authority Order Number 2: Dissolution of Entities).

AR1 26th March 2026 20:12


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 12059139)
Video seems genuine. Near but no cigar.



Second point of view showing MANPAD launch.

Smokeless? Not SA 18/24 then - any thoughts?

albatross 26th March 2026 20:32

Humm

So did Iran let 10 tankers sail as per Fox and Djt?

Well ….What is actually going on with shipping?
According to Sal
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....951da556c.jpeg



ORAC 26th March 2026 20:51

🙄🙄🤔

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....afa03a99a.jpeg

Martin the Martian 26th March 2026 22:56

Translation: I've backed myself into this corner and I really don't know how to get out of it.

Ronald Reagan 27th March 2026 01:15

It is very possible President Trump is simply telling us what is really happening.

Pilot DAR 27th March 2026 01:17

Military discussion here, politics to Jetblast please...

Lonewolf_50 27th March 2026 02:59


Originally Posted by Ronald Reagan (Post 12059576)
It is very possible President Trump is simply telling us what is really happening.

No, it isn't. I've been paying attention to what he says since his primary run in 2015-2016. PT Barnum never had to be president.

Suggest that instead, in the context of this thread, you pay more attention to what the spokespersons for CENTCOM say, and also pay attention to what they don't say.
In other words, use your brain and use critical thinking.

Note that in the War of Words adhering to this conflict, the Iranians claim to have shot down an F-15.
But they didn't.
Did you believe them when they claimed that? If you did, why?

You are a target, and I am a target, in the Information Campaign being waged by multiple parties to this conflict.
What defenses have you chosen to deploy?

WillowRun 6-3 27th March 2026 04:03


Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50 (Post 12059613)
........

Suggest that instead, in the context of this thread, you pay more attention to what the spokespersons for CENTCOM say, and also pay attention to what they don't say.
In other words, use your brain and use critical thinking.

Note that in the War of Words adhering to this conflict, the Iranians claim to have shot down an F-15.
But they didn't.
Did you believe them when they claimed that? If you did, why?

You are a target, and I am a target, in the Information Campaign being waged by multiple parties to this conflict.
What defenses have you chosen to deploy?

Interesting, perhaps, to consider the matter of defenses in the Information Campaign specifically in the air domain context. Of course, the Info Campaign is part of Multi-Domain Operations, yet that fact doesn't invalidate a close look through an aviation lens. Or at least an effort to do so.

Anyone (well, anyone serious and mostly unbiased against the United States) who has read Dr. Sean McFate's book, The New Rules of War - Victory in the Age of Durable Disruption (2019), would have been trying to track the battles in the information space at least since Operation Midnight Hammer in 2025. Without making any political statement at all, anyone with at least a secondary school education would acknowledge that a great many words in the English language have a number of denotative meanings, as well as connotative meanings.

Nevertheless hours of airtime elevated "obliterated" to a kind of absolutist pinnacle, capable of only one meaning. Rare was the admission that the contents of the sites struck in that operation were seriously enough destroyed so as to be compared to an old fraternity friend of mine who, when prompted to describe the voluminous amounts of alcohol consumed over the weekend, was fond of responding that he had got "obliterated." As a skirmish, if not a more pitched battle, in the Info Campaign, this adjective manuever was instructive. Specifically, instructive about so many otherwise ostensibly intelligent persons chasing after verbalizaions without thinking why they may have been spoken in certain words and not others.

So just reflecting on the range of meanings conveyed by any given word or phrase is one line of defense. Then there is the defensive value found not in what we know - what is said publicly - but in what we do not know. In the operation to apprehend and extract the Maduro husband-and-wife dictatorship from Caracas, ordinarily reliable press reports noted that special forces activities were involved. I doubt that many among the cadres of veterans of such units have much trouble deducing what weapons, maneuvers and capabilities were deployed and utilized. But the public in general - minus Tom Clancy imagery, I think most folks imagine little more than Gregory Peck in Twelve O'Clock High (1949). So as a line of defense, this is a reminder to constantly, always, keep in mind that by necessity, CNN or Fox (etc.) aren't reporting on the totality of what's happening or has happened.

And recall that the Caracas operation involved heavy presence of aviation assets. It is significant, imo, that the operation followed the several obliterations (yes, using the word on purpose here) of alleged drug-running boats. Much hue and cry resulted in the information space, and noting this in no way, shape, manner or form detracts from or negates the several important questions these boat kills implicate. And obviously aviation assets were deeply and fundamentally involved. And then note, the Caracas operation followed.

Is there a parallel looming, larger in scope and consequence? First massive infliction of destruction and degrading of adversary military capacities and capabilities through correlatively massive air power, then, another special forces strike enabled, supported and protected by high-capability airborne and MEU elements? I have no crystal ball and I especially don't have one that speaks, reads or thinks in Farsi. In other words, keeping an open mind about what has happened - because it isn't all reported and so much reporting is driven by agenda, beyond bias - and about what may be coming, is a deliberate mindset. And more intensely so, with regard to aviation assets and the air domain.

[Edited to correct media reference & minor typos]

CISTRS 27th March 2026 07:09

Whilst on the subject of "obliteration", may I remind all about the true meaning of "decimation".
To decimate your opponent is to kill one in ten.
That means 90% survive.

artee 27th March 2026 07:14


Originally Posted by CISTRS (Post 12059677)
Whilst on the subject of "obliteration", may I remind all about the true meaning of "decimation".
To decimate your opponent is to kill one in ten.
That means 90% survive.

Whilst you're right, I think you'll find that "decimate" is one of those words where the meaning is changing.


Definition of Decimate

Decimate originally referred to a Roman military punishment where every tenth soldier in a unit was executed. Over time, the meaning has evolved significantly.

Current Meaning

Today, decimate is commonly used to describe the act of drastically reducing or destroying a large part of something. This can apply to populations, resources, or even industries.


dead_pan 27th March 2026 07:22


Originally Posted by Ronald Reagan (Post 12059576)
It is very possible President Trump is simply telling us what is really happening.

Absolutely, because hes backed himself into a corner and doesn't know how to get out.

ORAC 27th March 2026 07:22

https://www.axios.com/2026/03/27/ira...ps-middle-east


Pentagon weighs sending 10,000 more combat troops to the Middle East

The White House and the Pentagon are considering sending at least 10,000 additional combat troops to the Middle East in the coming days, according to a senior U.S. defense official.

Why it matters:

If the Trump administration decides to send extra troops, it will significantly increase the number of combat soldiers the U.S. has in the region. It is another signal that a U.S. ground operation in Iran is being seriously prepared.


The massive surge in ground troops is being considered as President Trump says the U.S. is negotiating with Iran on a deal to end the war. Iranian officials haven't agreed yet to hold a high-level meeting with the U.S. and they are suspicious that the U.S. diplomatic push is another trick.

The U.S. defense official expects the decision to be made next week and said the troops will be from different combat units than the ones which have already been sent to the region……

ThePentagon is developing military options for a "final blow" in Iran that could include the use of ground forcesand a massive bombing campaign, Axios reported.

Trump hasn't made a decision yet on pursuing any of these scenarios, but sources say he's ready to escalate if talks with Iran don't yield tangible results soon.

More reinforcements, including several fighter jet squadrons and thousands of troops, are expected to arrive in the Middle East in the coming days and weeks.

One Marine expeditionary unit will arrive this week and another is now deploying. The command element of the 82nd Airborne Division has been directed to deploy to the Middle East with an infantry brigade consisting of several thousand troops.

larssnowpharter 27th March 2026 10:31

Open source information indicates that USNS Pililaau (T-AKR-404) was recently - perhaps still is - moored at Diego Garcia. This is a MSC Large RORO vessel of the Bob Hope class designed to move heavy military equipment. Other vessels of the same class appear to be in US ports.
There are many storage sheds on Diego Garcia.
Typically the class can carry up to 60 tanks and 1000 trucks plus a shedful or two of containers.


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