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SASless 12th August 2019 13:48

Race,

Essentially you are right in your comment about cheap assets taking out expensive assets.

The Lesson Learned from that incident has evoked some interesting results.

At my local shipping port where US Military vessels sometimes arrive to drop military cargo and take on similar cargo.....in a US Port known for its sport fishing.....we get to see Armed vigilant gunners manning .50 Cal Machine Guns watching us pass by as USCG Patrol Vessels standby.....24 Hours a day.

If you happen to violate the Buffer Zone....you get to have a friendly chat with the Coasties who remind you to shove off smartish and not to come back again or they will ruin your fishing trip.

You can imagine the measures taken in a hostile location when such vessels pull into Port.

racedo 12th August 2019 14:48


Originally Posted by SASless (Post 10543205)
You can imagine the measures taken in a hostile location when such vessels pull into Port.

As you say in a US port you would assume (not always correct), that everyone is working with the same goals and intent.

In a hostile environment that will not be the case, yup, you may be paying Jonny $100 a week to man guns (when local wage is $5 a week) to prevent anybody transgressing an area but local baddies have Jonny's son as a member / hostage. Jonny just ends up being too slow to react or the gun "jammed" when needed or he fired and missed.

2 or 3 $50 inflatables with paddles, 2-3 RPGs per inflatable and guys knowing whatever happens to them, family will be provided for everymore, are what keeps Navy security drinking Maalox by the bottle.

AnglianAV8R 13th August 2019 21:29

UK To Release Hijacked Tanker Back To Iran – Iranian Media

https://en.muraselon.com/2019/08/uk-...iranian-media/

ORAC 21st August 2019 07:19


ericsson16 21st August 2019 15:21

https://news.sky.com/story/us-offici...yemen-11790577

ORAC 22nd August 2019 09:40

Salami Tactics | Comment Central

Salami Tactics

racedo 22nd August 2019 10:19


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 10551492)

So is this another one of those dodgy think tanks funded by dodgy back door funds. I have seen the contributors and a lot on the right of Attila the Hun.

Bit like Integrity Iniatitive.

ORAC 22nd August 2019 10:46

The CEJISS?

https://www.mup.cz/en/mup-press/acad...urnals/cejiss/

http://www.cejiss.org/editors/desk

“Mitchell Belfer is Senior Lecturer at the Department of International Relations and European Studies and Editor in Chief of the Central European Journal of International and Security Studies (CEJISS). He holds a Ph.D. and an MPA in International Relations Theory and his academic interests gravitate around: alliance theory, small states, dangerous regions, the international relations of the Arabian Gulf and Middle East, asymmetrical violence and general security-related issues.

What began as a strictly alliance-centric focus has morphed into a multi-layered understanding of alliances that investigates the manner in which an alliance’s major to minor and its minor to minor dyads within the alliance behave to one another.”.

Asturias56 22nd August 2019 12:39

Let a hundred flowers bloom and a hundred schools of thought contend..........................

racedo 22nd August 2019 13:49


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 10551558)
The CEJISS?

https://www.mup.cz/en/mup-press/acad...urnals/cejiss/

Editors desk

“Mitchell Belfer is Senior Lecturer at the Department of International Relations and European Studies and Editor in Chief of the Central European Journal of International and Security Studies (CEJISS). He holds a Ph.D. and an MPA in International Relations Theory and his academic interests gravitate around: alliance theory, small states, dangerous regions, the international relations of the Arabian Gulf and Middle East, asymmetrical violence and general security-related issues.

What began as a strictly alliance-centric focus has morphed into a multi-layered understanding of alliances that investigates the manner in which an alliance’s major to minor and its minor to minor dyads within the alliance behave to one another.”.

Doesn't answer the question though.

Where is the money coming from to fund it ?

Atlantic council ? Soros ? or some other mysterious benefactor.

ORAC 23rd August 2019 07:08

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/i...fuel-8m3n3f5x7

Iran tanker crisis: Greece refuses to let Adrian Darya 1 refuel

An Iranian tanker suspected of transporting oil to Syria has been blocked from refuelling in Greece, prompting fears that its crew may attempt a dangerous sea-to-sea cargo transfer if they cannot dock in north Africa.

The Adrian Darya 1 was in the middle of the Mediterranean yesterday, 100 nautical miles south of Sardinia and 60 nautical miles north of Algeria, sailing east at around eight knots towards Greece. However, the country has refused sanctuary to the ship, which the United States claims is transporting around £130 million worth in light crude to Syria, in breach of international sanctions. The vessel was previously known as Grace 1 and was detained by the authorities in Gibraltar last month, prompting a diplomatic crisis. Its detention order was lifted last week.

Carrying 2.1 million barrels of crude, enough to supply both Britain and France for a day, the ship was expected to arrive in the southern Greek port of Kalamata on Sunday, according to maritime tracking systems. However, local media said that the tanker’s crew had contacted a Greek shipping company for assistance to dock and the request was turned down. Miltiadis Varvitsiotis, Greece’s deputy foreign minister, told the broadcaster ANT1 that his country was “not willing to facilitate the course of this ship to Syria”.

Experts have said that if the tanker cannot dock in Greece, it can either go someplace else, most likely north Africa, or the crew could attempt to transfer the oil to another ship. “That leaves the tanker with limited options,” one shipping expert told The Times, requesting anonymity because of his knowledge of details of the case.

“It will either have to find a friendly port to dock or bunker offshore. It will have to find a vessel to transfer its cargo, vessel to vessel, in high seas — something which is extremely difficult at present because of bad weather conditions. If all fails, and it runs out of fuel and is left sailing adrift, then it becomes a major safety hazard. It would require immediate international assistance to be towed to the nearest shore. At this point, no one knows what the endgame is for either side.”

Greece controls about a quarter of the global tanker fleet. Its shipping operations used to ferry 37 per cent of Iranian crude worldwide before the US tightened sanctions on Tehran’s exports in April.

Government officials contacted by The Times said that the tanker had been switching its tracking system “on and off, travelling at a very slow speed”. It has a crew of 29, from India, Russia, Latvia and the Philippines......


Lonewolf_50 23rd August 2019 19:49

Darn, I need to refresh my current events. Is Syria under UN sanctions for oil imports due to ... something Assad did or didn't do? As I look under the UNSCR documents on Syria, I didn't find any at first blush.

SASless 23rd August 2019 20:54

Since 2011.....if still in effect for Aviation fuel.

One would have to assume the Brits knew what they were doing when they seized the Tanker and Crew....surely.

ORAC 23rd August 2019 21:58

L-50,

No UN Sanctions on Syria - all vetoed. Y Russia and China, but there are by other international blocs. The UK was applying EU sanctions, which is why Greece will also be complying.

https://complyadvantage.com/knowledg...untries/syria/

racedo 23rd August 2019 23:02


Originally Posted by SASless (Post 10552766)
Since 2011.....if still in effect for Aviation fuel.

One would have to assume the Brits knew what they were doing when they seized the Tanker and Crew....surely.

:ugh: Good luck with that idea.

Lonewolf_50 23rd August 2019 23:37

OK, ORAC, thanks, this was an interesting stroll down memory lane back to W and the Arab spring based actions of Obama.
Refresh of memory, and the links to other interested parties taken note of.
As Dick Deadeye once remarked: "Ah, it's a queer world."

Lordflasheart 3rd September 2019 07:22

Where is the Grace 1 ?
 
...
... and all the others ... ?

https://www.maritime-executive.com/a...dark-off-syria

....



racedo 6th September 2019 21:23

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-49589075

This shows a rather scary viewpoint that US State Dept openly seeking to engage in piracy.

Asturias56 7th September 2019 07:26

Actually it's not Piracy it's incitement to Barratry - "the Capt & Crew conspiring together to defraud the owners and shippers" - used to be common and can still be seen as a legal term in some shipping contracts

Yes - I shall look for a job as a Tanker Captain and send my bank details to the USA so they can pay me in advance..................

still it's better than killing people I suppose - and cheaper than deploying serious assets to intercept.....

ORAC 7th September 2019 12:10

Looks like the Iranians lied when they promised it wasn’t going to Syria to get Gibraltar to release it.....

https://news.sky.com/story/satellite...-port-11804153


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