Perhaps then, Les Quebecois might influence the RCAF's future fighter programme office towards the excellent Dassault Rafale? The Polaris crews with whom I've worked were hugely impressed by the Rafale's capabilities during the Libyan campaign.

Caution....you just walked off into a Minefield.


Lets compare Quebec to the UK for instance......by land area.

OverlapMaps - Instantly compare any two places on Earth!

Select Country, Province (Canada/Quebec) and United Kingdom and check the results.

I'm left wondering why Wolfe bothered.

The mistake made was in the treaty in 1763. Wolfe bothered because it was a key strategic objective of the campaign.

If my Canadian friends in BC are in any way representative, the rest of Canada would be happy to see them go...
Before I visited Montreal the first time, I was warned to speak English with a distinctly American accent, if they thought I was Canadian speaking English they would ignore me. Absolutely correct - and quite obvious.

That's sometimes true in South Africa. It is useful to be foreign and not British because then some Afrikaners will then talk to you in English.

Personally I think it's totally incredible that these enormously arrogant people don't get with the program and speak English like everyone in the world should for our convenience.

The vast majority of people in Quebec speak English quite well - I've been there a few times and never came across anyone who didn't speak English fluently (I also found it mildly amazing how quickly and seamlessly they could switch between French and English).
They just think everyone should speak French (at least other Canadians).

Speaking of Thread drift France end of WWI
 

https://yaleglobal.yale.edu/content/...ys-middle-east

Lessons From Versailles for Today’s Middle East

SASLESS

I think we are in agreement, there is nothing small about Quebec...:ok:

IG

Another Tanker Seized
 

That article says nothing useful.

Which ship, where was it loaded, who owned the cargo, where was it too unload?

Was it Iranian Oil from an Iranian Port or was it from a non-Iranian Port headed to an Non-Iranian port?


From a better source.....at least there is some detail and background info in this article.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-s...l-persian-gulf

If true,what it does say is that the International community is pretty hopeless.

Ambivalent is a better word.

Yes - its fine for the USA and the UK to have bases there but Really Bad when the Russians do................

Pot, kettle, black...................................

If the British navy again caves in as pathetically as it did during the last interception by armed Iranian fast RIBs in 2007 then the correct description is 'hopeless'.

Risk aversion carried to the nth. Nelson must be quivering with rage !

Capt Kremmen

Just a question - what would you have done, in a RIB and armed with a SA80 and a 9mm pistol, when IRGCN boats armed with 12.7mm and 14.5mm Heavy Machine Guns surround you?

If you are interested - the Fulton report was released under the Freedom of Information Act.

I'm not exactly an 'armchair warrior'. I'm a former member of No. 40 Commando and my actions would not have included the pathetic act of surrender that, when it became known, was so damaging to the international reputation of specifically our navy and generally our armed forces.

Resolution, linked to a clear cut extraction plan appeared to be lacking. Thank you for the link.

My t thoughts go towards how did the RIB crew(s) come to find themselves in that predicament to begin with.

It is plain....they did not have the back-up support needed to ensure their safety.

Considering the situation, past conduct by the Iranians....going down with the ship with guns ablaze certainly was not the ending this situation demanded or would be be expected.

I did like the comment in the Report about "overly complex SOP's".

For the Captain....taking a hard line begins at 10 Downing Street and not on the Deck of a RIB in contested waters with a small boat crew with no backup.