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movadinkampa747 7th November 2006 21:34


Originally Posted by Ginseng (Post 2951698)
Having had 6 months to experience the RAF's teething problems

Teething problems with JPA? Dont be to quick to judge as JPA leans within the cosy verb.:bored: You see, Besides the fictional budget intervenes my foreseeable shareholder from EDS and teething problems reclaims a parochial concerto within the company of EDS.
Why won't JPA scream beneath the bacterium that is infecting its core?:uhoh: Well I will tell you, a lean transmitter duplicates a satellite arc and JPA refuses every pointer.
So the solutions to teething problems breathes within JPA. Its easy to see that JPA bypasses solutions to all teething problems like Pandemic Flu:} .

Ginseng 7th November 2006 21:41

Movadinkampa747
 
Hmmmmm. A little too much of the hard stuff, methinks.

Regards

Ginseng

LFFC 7th November 2006 21:42


Originally Posted by movadinkampa747 (Post 2951839)
Teething problems with JPA? Dont be to quick to judge as JPA leans within the cosy verb.:bored: You see, Besides the fictional budget intervenes my foreseeable shareholder from EDS and teething problems reclaims a parochial concerto within the company of EDS.
Why won't JPA scream beneath the bacterium that is infecting its core?:uhoh: Well I will tell you, a lean transmitter duplicates a satellite arc and JPA refuses every pointer.
So the solutions to teething problems breathes within JPA. Its easy to see that JPA bypasses solutions to all teething problems like Pandemic Flu:} .

Movadinkampa747 ---- So you're the person that's been sending me all the spam recently!

movadinkampa747 7th November 2006 21:58


Originally Posted by LFFC (Post 2951854)
Movadinkampa747 ---- So you're the person that's been sending me all the spam recently!

Sorry, no its not me because you must realise that the correlate slang provokes spam. How do you, LFFC, pulse into its holy fuss? Spam flies before your visible doom. LFFC once again whoops "spam".

Ginseng 7th November 2006 22:09

M747
 
I'd try ringing that Irish hospital if I were you. You need help!

Regards

Ginseng

light_my_spey 7th November 2006 23:11

movadinkampa747

What the !!!! are you going on about?



p.s. For us simple ones, PLAIN ENGLISH please.

spectre150 8th November 2006 05:58

747's last 2 posts are like something out of a language translator programme the individual words are recognisable but when read together they are meaningles. :)

extpwron 8th November 2006 07:39

If you cut and paste the text into Google Translate and convert to German you get this:

Dentitionprobleme mit JPA? Nicht zu schnell zu urteilen sein, da JPA innerhalb des cosy Verbs sich lehnt. Du siehst, außer dem fiktiven Etat greift mein vorhersehbarer Aktionär von EDS ein und Dentitionprobleme fordert ein parochiales Konzert innerhalb der Firma von EDS zurück. Warum nicht schreit JPA unter dem Bakterium, das seinen Kern ansteckt? Brunnen I erklärt dir daß, Duplikate eines magere übermittlers ein Satellitenbogen und JPA jeden Zeiger ablehnt. So atmet die Lösungen zu den Dentitionproblemen innerhalb JPA. Sein einfaches, zu sehen, daß JPA Lösungen zu allen Dentitionproblemen wie Pandemic Grippe überbrückt.

Convert from German into French you get this:

Dentitionprobleme avec JPA ? Juger pas trop rapidement son, puisque JPA se penche dans cosy le verbe. Tu vois, interviens excepté le budget fictif mon actionnaire prévisible d'EDS et des Dentitionprobleme reprends un concert parochiales dans l'entreprise d'EDS. Pourquoi ne pas marcher JPA sous la bactérie qui attache son coeur ? Le puits I t'explique que, maigre rejette les duplicatas übermittlers un coude par satellite et un JPA chaque pointeur. Ainsi respire les solutions aux Dentitionproblemen dans JPA. Son simple voir que JPA franchit des solutions à tous les Dentitionproblemen comme des Pandemic grippe.

Convert back into English you get this:

Dentitionprobleme with JPA? To judge not too quickly its, since JPA leans in cosy the verb. You see, intervene except the fictitious budget my foreseeable shareholder of EDS and of Dentitionprobleme take again a concert parochial in the company of EDS. Why not go JPA under the bacterium which attaches its heart? Well I explains you why, thin rejects the duplicatas übermittlers an elbow by satellite and a JPA each pointer. Thus breathes the solutions in Dentitionproblemen in JPA. Its simple to see that JPA crosses solutions with all Dentitionproblemen as of Pandemic seizes up.

………which makes more sense.

spectre150 8th November 2006 07:57

why not say that in the first place - abundantly clear now :}

SidHolding 8th November 2006 19:46

Lost LSA days
 
My LSA days are still incorrect on JPA and therefore I get paid it at a lower rate than I should recieve. I've had no luck at all trying to get it corrected with JPAC or HR, but things are potentially looking up now.....

Following some advice from a fellow sufferer of lost LSA days, I've applied to PMA through PSF that they provide my archive records under the data protection act (all above board - there's a form for it). I shall go through and calculate the days myself, photocopy the lot of send it out in triplicate to HR and JPAC.

I know I shouldn't have to do this, but hey, if you want a job doing correctly........

PS: Some people suggested photocopying my logbook, but I don't log courses or when AT took me in/out of theatre and I want every day back.

Pontius Navigator 8th November 2006 20:21


Originally Posted by SidHolding (Post 2953475)
my logbook, but I don't log courses or . . .

That's a shame. All mine were logged and very useful it proved. I was able to get my official records updated as the computer driven system had been fed the wrong data quite often.

As well you should also have that lovely blue ring-bound folder to record your whole service life.:}

Mightycrewseven 9th November 2006 15:20

Sid

Matey, after the chat we had on Tuesday, I believe I will follow the same path as thou! Can you point me in the direction of the relevant form please?

Any idea on how long it will take for 'uselessworth' to come back with the goods?

Regards

M7

Wyler 9th November 2006 16:18

I am now officially stuck on the wheel of death regarding my MQ deductions.

JPAC - Not us Guv, has to come from DHE, talk to them.
DHE - Done that, not our problem, talk to your local HR.
Local HR - You need to talk to JPAC.

I actually feel like killing someone.

L J R 9th November 2006 16:58

Let me know how it goes Wylie.

Shadwell the old 9th November 2006 19:26

Wyler,

Please PM me, I may be able to help

Wyler 14th November 2006 14:43

Success(?) at last!
 
The situation regarding my FMQ charges has at kast been resolved. My heartfelt thanks to the Deputy Chief Clerk who took pity on me and took up the gauntlet. In the end even he got fed up with the sloping shoulders, lies and false promises of the JPAC staff. He accumulated all the paperwork himself and Faxed the lot to JPAC. He phoned them every three hours for 4 days until they actioned it (just to shut him up). He also badgered DHE (or whatever) every day to come up with the facts and support him.

I have now been credited with the charges......and overpaid by 1300 pounds.........:ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh: :ugh:

I am soooooo tempted to make the b@stards wait for three months and have to phone me every day but that would make me as bad as them. :mad:

This means that, under JPA, I have never had correct pay.

Good outcome and 10 out of 10 to the adminners who were outstanding. :D :D Still a sad way to say farewell. :( Many thanks to those who offered help. :ok:

airborne_artist 14th November 2006 14:58

Why not pop down to the bank, and get the £1300 out in 2p pieces, and then send it to OC JPA by courier, deducting the courier charge from the amount being re-paid!

Climebear 14th November 2006 16:04


Originally Posted by Wyler (Post 2962484)
Good outcome and 10 out of 10 to the adminners who were outstanding. :D :D

Now there's a phrase you don't hear every day!

formertonkaplum 24th November 2006 08:48

Advance's
 
Anyone else experienced (at the end of November ready for Xmas), the re-claiming of incorrectly paid advances?

I must have email JPAC and unit HR 5 times to tell them since my overissue in May.... and now they take it back. Well done for making sure it was at the most appropriate time. Just lucky my debt was small, some poor folks must have been really stung this month?

The farce that is JPA continues to cause havoc. Any rumours about a decent pay rise going round yet?

Widger 24th November 2006 09:50

The RN awaits payment via JPA this month.:bored: :\


Thanks to all of you for being such good guinea pigs and resolving most of the issues.:ok:

Skua'd 25th November 2006 13:56

Got my (RN) log-in this week. Pay statement has appeared, showing a positive amount:) . Will now wait to see if said amount can get to my bank.....:confused:

sarsteph 27th November 2006 18:57

Disturbance Allowance
 
Anyone else had their disturbance allowance taxed in Nov paypacket? It seems someone pressed the wrong button again! Nicely timed, just as the Christmas shopping starts...:(

ANAPROP 27th November 2006 19:32


Originally Posted by formertonkaplum (Post 2983422)
Anyone else experienced (at the end of November ready for Xmas), the re-claiming of incorrectly paid advances?

There is a JPA operational bulletin out that covers this issue. It seems that if you owe £200, or less, it is being reclaimed from Novembers pay. If you owe more than £200 they will reclaim £200 from Nov's pay, and the rest, in full, from Decembers pay.
Now I know everyone puts over issues into a high interest account and doesn't spend it, however this is still insensitive timing what with the Christmas shopping to do etc.

mayorofgander 27th November 2006 19:35


Originally Posted by ANAPROP (Post 2989808)
If you owe more than £200 they will reclaim £200 from Nov's pay, and the rest, in full, from Decembers pay.
.

No, sorry......my approx £8.5K overpayment was clawed back at 4 days gross this month....just another 20 or so months to go!!!

MOG

4fitter 27th November 2006 20:00

Anybody surprised that disturbance allowance is now paid in monthly "pay runs" as against the within 3 days for most claims. Miss the pay run because you can't input outside the days to do and you end up not getting it until the end of the following month. Incur expense for a move but don't get it till later ! Where did I read that JPA would speed things up and make our allowances more accessible ? :(

vecvechookattack 27th November 2006 23:41

The £200 mark sounds correct. We all had an email from a shiny in Fleet today stating that most of the RN had not paid enough Tax....pretty much all of us paid £200 short of what we would normally be expected to pay. E-Mail went on to state that the wonga would be recvered next month.

Mactlsm1 28th November 2006 02:59


Originally Posted by vecvechookattack (Post 2990084)
The £200 mark sounds correct. We all had an email from a shiny in Fleet today stating that most of the RN had not paid enough Tax....pretty much all of us paid £200 short of what we would normally be expected to pay. E-Mail went on to state that the wonga would be recvered next month.


So Vec,
Your post seems to refer to something originally posted by ANAPROP regarding advances, or didn’t you read that far down. Your issue seems to be coincidental in that it’s the same amount of money. Spooky eh?
JPA works then.............................. :mad:

NOT

PS Don't try to deny it.

Welcome to our world :ugh:

Mac

vecvechookattack 28th November 2006 07:04

Well, it works for me. That £200 is going straight into the Mini cash ISA and will earn me a couple of bob whilst I wait for JPA to sort it out....free money - Result.

TMJ 28th November 2006 08:07


Originally Posted by sarsteph (Post 2989750)
Anyone else had their disturbance allowance taxed in Nov paypacket? It seems someone pressed the wrong button again! Nicely timed, just as the Christmas shopping starts...:(

To be fair, they've noticed it and reckon it'll be paid back in a suplementary pay run by the end of the month. I'm morre vexxed with whoever forgot to tick the box for my GHY for all of September; didn't turn up in October's slip, I spoke to PSF and they admitted the mistake, but it still hasn't appeared. It's a long way from the north end of the Empire to the Swindon college of knowledge, so a month's mileage basedallwance would be nice...

Pontius Navigator 28th November 2006 08:32


Originally Posted by TMJ (Post 2990483)
, I spoke to PSF and they admitted the mistake, but it still hasn't appeared.

Chinese walls, DPA and all that. JPAC will not discuss with PSF.

sarsteph 29th November 2006 16:03

Taxed Disturbance Allowance
 
[quote=TMJ;2990483]To be fair, they've noticed it and reckon it'll be paid back in a suplementary pay run by the end of the month.

Credit to JPA (for once:E ) - they have delivered on the promise; I've just seen the notification that the incorrect tax will be repaid on payday at end of Nov.

airborne_artist 30th November 2006 09:18

And now the Marines in 'stan have to re-pay over-paid allowances. telegraph report

"The morale of Royal Marines serving on the front line in Afghanistan has plummeted after a £3,000 allowance was deducted from their wages following a "dreadful blunder" by Royal Navy administrators."

"A Navy spokesman said it was "regrettable" that an error had been made when pay chiefs had incorrectly made briefings on pay allowances two years ago.

The new system was designed to simplify allowances and ensured Navy personnel were treated in the same way as RAF and Army."

TMJ 30th November 2006 13:56


Originally Posted by airborne_artist (Post 2994515)
And now the Marines in 'stan have to re-pay over-paid allowances. telegraph report

"The morale of Royal Marines serving on the front line in Afghanistan has plummeted after a £3,000 allowance was deducted from their wages following a "dreadful blunder" by Royal Navy administrators."

"A Navy spokesman said it was "regrettable" that an error had been made when pay chiefs had incorrectly made briefings on pay allowances two years ago.

The new system was designed to simplify allowances and ensured Navy personnel were treated in the same way as RAF and Army."

Hmm, my reading of the article was that they're not getting a wedge they were told they were going to get, rather than they've been paid and now have to give it back. Looks like a traditional admin cockup (pusser's cockup as it's the Naval Service?) rather than directly related to JPA.

The Mad Taff 30th November 2006 15:22

Thats not all......
 
As a former member of handbrake house I hoped that I'd be paid my final pay and gratuity for 15 years service no probs! Our survey said NO! The JPAC have taken £2500 off me, haven't paid my gratuity and are refusing to talk to me about it all! An advance for resettlement has gone for a burton and this callsign is now severly out of pocket!!!! Argh! This is all the thanks I get! :mad: :ugh: :{

PPRuNeUser0211 30th November 2006 15:33

Just a heads up to all you folks trying to sort stuff about back pay thru your PSFs... had an issue with GYH for a few months now, handbrake finally sorted it and was confident the backpay would appear in November's packet. GYH for nov appeared, but not the arrears. Now appears that, with the RN joining the fray, the limit for JPA automatically working out what you should have been paid is Nov 1st. Anything else has to be submitted thru psf to JPAC:(

Climebear 30th November 2006 15:37


Originally Posted by pba_target (Post 2995262)
Anything else has to be submitted thru psf to JPAC:(


That'll be through all those clerk posts that have been disestablished to fund JPA and the JPAC then :ugh:

swampy_lynx_puke 2nd December 2006 07:55

What a Surprise!!
 
:mad: :uhoh:

I have not been paid!!! 1st RN pay run and no money, I shouldn't be surprised after the catalogue of farcical errors listed on this thread.
No Chrimbo in my house!! (only joking, I made sure cash flow situation could cover the inevitable)

Anyone else suffer the same?:\

airborne_artist 2nd December 2006 08:34


I made sure cash flow situation could cover the inevitable
And how many less sensible than you have been caught out by Uncle Scrooge's hand on the tiller of JPA?

Vim_Fuego 2nd December 2006 08:39


Originally Posted by swampy_lynx_puke (Post 2998033)
:mad: :uhoh:
I have not been paid!!! 1st RN pay run and no money, I shouldn't be surprised after the catalogue of farcical errors listed on this thread.
Anyone else suffer the same?:\

First of al my sympathies Swampy but at least through the light blue experience of JPA you were given warning to put a bit aside...

Just to let you know so you can work to a timescale for perhaps when your probs may be ironed out I got paid correctly this month and with the flying pay I was owed...This is the first time since April it's happened and they even phoned me to tell me it was sorted which incidently was the first time I ever got a call back from my couple of dozen calls to them...

I suppose I should get all gushy now and praise them for finally getting it right in time for Christmas but lets face it, if I had a choice of systems/companies to pay me I would have changed suppliers in June when my faith of this system totally ran out.

In the event that you run to the same time path as me you'll be sorted by June 07...:bored:

L J R 2nd December 2006 08:56

Appalling that you had to 'put some money aside' - 'just in-case'. Get a Grip MoD - It is the year 2006, not 1845, why should the the most dedicated people in the UK be so utterly shafted! In this century, Technology transfers funds at the speed of light, why oh why does it take 6-9 months for glitches to be sorted!


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