Global Hawk over the area, so maybe an update soon.
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Originally Posted by Usertim
(Post 11215261)
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/sarc on Anyway it seems the Russians did a great job evacuating the 500 crew completely in 2 meter seas @ night in a short time, and already getting some tug ( I guess from sevastopol 170 miles away) and taking on tow a smouldering hulk perhaps still very dangerous /sarc off |
OH Orac, That is absolute GOLD, That image deserves recognition.
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Intriguing to watch the hoops they jump through in order to spin a suitable Russian narrative to apply to any situation, however bad.
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Just a thought - if there is even a hint of NATO involvement in this attack, things could get 'interesting' in the next day or two.
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Originally Posted by papa_sierra
(Post 11215306)
Global Hawk over the area, so maybe an update soon.
Was there a Forte call sign up last night? |
Nutty
That video seems incompatible with an attack happening around midnight in bad weather conditions. |
Originally Posted by Frostchamber
(Post 11215313)
Intriguing to watch the hoops they jump through in order to spin a suitable Russian narrative to apply to any situation, however bad.
Ethical Question for you military people, is it still OK to fire upon an enemy warship even though it may be conducting a rescue operation. |
Perhaps Ukraine could trigger another accidental fire on another ship in order to make things more obvious to the russian public.
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Originally Posted by Xeptu
(Post 11215324)
well it is technically correct, an ordinance explosion caused by a fire which is under investigation. The fire was probably caused by a direct hit from a neptune missile.
Ethical Question for you military people, is it still OK to fire upon an enemy warship even though it may be conducting a rescue operation. |
How many enquiries were there into the legitimacy of the Belgrano. If it’s enemy it’s a target.
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Originally Posted by Xeptu
(Post 11215324)
well it is technically correct, an ordinance explosion caused by a fire which is under investigation. The fire was probably caused by a direct hit from a neptune missile.
Ethical Question for you military people, is it still OK to fire upon an enemy warship even though it may be conducting a rescue operation. wouldn't shoot a man/woman on water, but the vessel... |
Originally Posted by dead_pan
(Post 11215314)
Just a thought - if there is even a hint of NATO involvement in this attack, things could get 'interesting' in the next day or two.
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Originally Posted by Beamr
(Post 11215335)
you'd take out an enemy tank on tow so it won't be coming at you after repairs.
wouldn't shoot a man/woman on water, but the vessel... |
Originally Posted by Davef68
(Post 11215319)
Interesting the RQ-4 is showing up on FR24, but not on ADS-B Exchange.
Was there a Forte call sign up last night? I didn't see any last night though. |
Pentagon is saying she hasn’t sunk and appears to be under tow to Sebastopol.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/14/europ...-ml/index.html |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11215348)
Pentagon is saying she hasn’t sunk and appears to be under tow to Sebastopol.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/04/14/europ...-ml/index.html |
So....Admiral Kirby at the US DOD says Moskva is under its own power and steaming eastwards, other reports say it is being towed, some reports say all of the crew had been evacuated, fires contained (meaning extinguished?), perhaps essential crew returned to man the ship if it is either under tow or steaming under its own power?
Perhaps we might wait for more definitive and non-contradictory reports to tell the story. |
Originally Posted by SASless
(Post 11215372)
So....Admiral Kirby at the US DOD says Moskva is under its own power and steaming eastwards, other reports say it is being towed, some reports say all of the crew had been evacuated, fires contained (meaning extinguished?), perhaps essential crew returned to man the ship if it is either under tow or steaming under its own power?
Perhaps we might wait for more definitive and non-contradictory reports to tell the story. |
Originally Posted by SASless
(Post 11215372)
So....Admiral Kirby at the US DOD says Moskva is under its own power and steaming eastwards, other reports say it is being towed, some reports say all of the crew had been evacuated, fires contained (meaning extinguished?), perhaps essential crew returned to man the ship if it is either under tow or steaming under its own power?
Perhaps we might wait for more definitive and non-contradictory reports to tell the story. |
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