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NutLoose 8th Dec 2022 16:40

Ohh I do love Ukraines sense of humour..


"Putin's capitulation can be accepted standing up": Danilov responded to Merkel's statements about negotiations with Russia... "To end the war, Ukraine does not need a negotiating table. Putin's surrender can be accepted standing up," said the Secretary of National Security.

NutLoose 8th Dec 2022 16:42


NutLoose 8th Dec 2022 16:45

This is possibly showing up how desperate the ammo situation is for Putin.


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d52331858f.png



NutLoose 8th Dec 2022 16:48

Hang in there :sad:


West Coast 8th Dec 2022 17:30


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11344520)

Painful to watch.

The Helpful Stacker 8th Dec 2022 17:47


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11344516)
This is possibly showing up how desperate the ammo situation is for Putin.


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d52331858f.png

Whilst I'm sure it's true, it could also be a sign that their logistics system is in rag order (which we know it is) and they're not rotating stock correctly and/or are redirecting replenishment directly from production due to the supply line being shorter.

A single photo, no matter how well annotated, isn't always enough to draw conclusions.

rattman 8th Dec 2022 18:34


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11344203)
Add another 100K onto the estimated 90K Russian KIA - because the Wagner recruits aren’t, it seems, being included in army reported figures….

Ukraine has always counted wagner. Russia has not not counted wagner or LPR/DPR in thier official caualties

NutLoose 8th Dec 2022 21:13

Damn, those poor guys. :(


NutLoose 8th Dec 2022 21:24

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albatross 8th Dec 2022 21:53


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11344674)

So some war profiteer has one in Western Ukraine and wants to sell it?

NutLoose 8th Dec 2022 21:56

I do hope they are showing this in Russia, they are sending their children off to war dressed in paintball kit, no cold weather kit and self purchased sanitary towels as Putin stands there in his opulent warm palace, nice suit on and a glass of wine in his hand.



NutLoose 8th Dec 2022 21:57


Originally Posted by albatross (Post 11344685)
So some war profiteer has one in Western Ukraine and wants to sell it?

It appears so, but even for a scanner that appears cheap and it’s probably a company building them supplying it. I would have thought it’s very close to the front line too.

albatross 8th Dec 2022 22:09

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....204c9580f.jpeg
This may lead to an escalation! Putrid and his fans will be most upset. Especially his very special American supporter who has wanted the honour for years.

Winemaker 8th Dec 2022 23:33


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11344687)
I do hope they are showing this in Russia, they are sending their children off to war dressed in paintball kit, no cold weather kit and self purchased sanitary towels as Putin stands there in his opulent warm palace, nice suit on and a glass of wine in his hand.



https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...CjvfmNrbcsAAAA

Yeah, more Putinisms. What I found interesting is him holding the wine glass, likely so that his fingers don't clench or shake. He also keeps his other hand in his pocket the whole time. We've seen video of him sitting at a table grasping the table edge the whole time he is filmed; something might be going on with his health.

ORAC 9th Dec 2022 06:19

Not smoking, but welding….

Good morning! Something is burning (and exploding) in Moscow..

Russian authorities say today's shopping centre fire in Khimki, Moscow Oblast, could have been caused by safety violations while welding.

Beamr 9th Dec 2022 06:50

Aviation content (sort of...)



Beamr 9th Dec 2022 07:13

About Russian logistic efficiency...



fdr 9th Dec 2022 08:31


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11344674)

What they need are nightingale flights outta dodge.

fdr 9th Dec 2022 08:46


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11344687)
I do hope they are showing this in Russia, they are sending their children off to war dressed in paintball kit, no cold weather kit and self purchased sanitary towels as Putin stands there in his opulent warm palace, nice suit on and a glass of wine in his hand.



https://twitter.com/wartranslated/st...CjvfmNrbcsAAAA

Golly, is his toxoplasmosis flaring up again? I don't judge, Vlad is welcome to his own gestapo dressage and whips, just prefer he didn't act out in neighbouring countries. He appears to have a cognitive challenge going on all of his very own inside his cranium. He certainly has a temporal issue and a bit 'o confusion on cause and effect. Pretty sure that for the rest of us on the 3rd rock Lord Vlads spring breakage began in February and Kerch happened a whole lot later.

But the good news is that the Kerch bridge is starting to head back towards being an excellent target once again. I would think that the center span is the better target for the FSB next time, that will take Rostov out of the business of shipping for the next few months.

fdr 9th Dec 2022 08:48


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11344782)


That twin magnums of champers, inn'it?

The victory salute to send off the Red team.

The Helpful Stacker 9th Dec 2022 09:45


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11344792)
About Russian logistic efficiency...

https://twitter.com/secretsqrl123/st...51417770270720

I still find it absolutely baffling that the Russian military has never mastered the use of the humble pallet.

Their logistics strategy is not just dated, it's Napoleonic.


Beamr 9th Dec 2022 10:47

Rossiskaja Gazeta claims that Russian scientists have created "Antidote against HIMARS: air defence received a new program that allows you to shoot down American missiles"

A lot of salt with it and a lot is cope material, but interesting article to see what is being fed to the Russian population.


Originally Posted by RG.ru
Russian air defense received new software that allows you to shoot down HIMARS MLRS missiles. This was told by the commander of one of the air defense units.

According to the officer, if at the initial stage the Russian air defense forces did not understand what the HIMARS MLRS missiles were, then after the firmware of the new program they became a "common target."

Data on the new software that allows you to see American missiles, of course, is not disclosed. According to military experts, one can only assume that the new firmware for Russian air defense systems appeared after a detailed analysis of downed missiles.

Earlier, information appeared, not officially confirmed, that one HIMARS MLRS installation was captured by our units. In addition, it was said that an undamaged HIMARS missile fell into the hands of the Russian military, which was delivered to one of the research institutes in Russia. It is likely that having thoroughly studied both the launcher itself and the rocket to it, our scientists were able to make an antidote against this complex.

Previously, it was not easy for our air defense to shoot down rockets fired from HIMARS systems. This was explained by the fact that the rocket flies at high altitude and has low visibility for air defense systems. In addition, the range of destruction of American missiles is about 80 km. This seriously reduces the time to make a decision after the target is detected by air defense systems.

According to experts, even before the creation of special software, our air defenses shot down 75-80 percent of missiles that were launched by HIMARS systems. The complexity of the destruction of this reactive ammunition is that it is necessary to hit its warhead. The rocket itself is just a pipe with an engine, hitting which can only change its course. Due to the fact that the head of the rocket is affected, it is only shot down at close range.

https://rg.ru/2022/12/09/protivoiadi...ie-rakety.html


ORAC 9th Dec 2022 10:47

Russian Ambassador to Kazakhstan, Alexei Borodavkin, says that Russia will help Tokayev crush "nationalism" and "extremism" in Kazakhstan

This statement is causing massive backlash in Kazakhstan….

uxb99 9th Dec 2022 10:55

If attributed to Ukrainian action and current (not always the case on twitter) this is some fire.


NutLoose 9th Dec 2022 10:56

Movement nr Kherson




NutLoose 9th Dec 2022 11:35

New cargo drones.



NutLoose 9th Dec 2022 11:40

Security at its max, they have even blurred out the cats face. :p


melmothtw 9th Dec 2022 14:04


Originally Posted by The Helpful Stacker (Post 11344867)
I still find it absolutely baffling that the Russian military has never mastered the use of the humble pallet.

Their logistics strategy is not just dated, it's Napoleonic.

Many of their soldiers still have not been issued with socks, so logistics are probably the least of their concerns TBH.

ORAC 9th Dec 2022 14:46

BREAKING: The U.S. plans to level new sanctions against Russia and China under the Global Magnitsky Act.

These sanctions will deal with Russia's use of Iranian UAVs, human rights abuses from Russia and China, and China's illegal fishing in the Pacific region.

Britain unveiled coordinated human rights sanctions today, which were focused on Iran and Russia.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/u-s-to-...na-11670547885

WASHINGTON—The U.S. is set to levy fresh sanctions against Russia and China on Friday, actions that include targeting Russia’s deployment of Iranian drones in Ukraine, alleged human-rights abuse by both nations and Beijing’s support of alleged illegal fishing in the Pacific, according to officials familiar with the matter.

The bulk of the expected sanctions are to be imposed under the Global Magnitsky Act, named after a whistleblower who died in a Moscow jail after accusing officials of corruption.The U.S., by using those powers to sanction high-profile government, military and business officials accused of human-rights abuses and corruption, says it aims to hold them accountable and deter others.….

The sanctions will freeze any assets the targets have within U.S. jurisdiction, prevent their travel to the U.S. and prohibit business dealings with them. For government and business officials, the actions can complicate their international travel and financing…..

The targets include officialsallegedly responsible for Russia’s filtration camps for Ukrainians caught behind the front, where groups such as Human Rights Watch have alleged the military has tortured citizens and committed other war crimes.

Separately from the Magnitsky sanctions, the administration also plans to hit several Russia defense industry entities tied to the transfer of Iranian military drones Moscow has been using to deadly effect in attacking Ukraine’s civilian infrastructure, according to the officials.

By penalizing Russia for its Iranian drone supplies, the U.S. says it aims to disrupt the deployment of a weapon that Ukrainians say has terrorized the population and is manufactured by Tehran’s U.S.-sanctioned weapons program.

Additionally, the U.S. prepared sanctions against Russia’s central election commission, which presides over an election system that Western officials broadly condemn as fraudulent and that has ensured President Vladimir Putin, a former spy, control of the country for nearly a quarter-century.

The Biden administration also is set to sanction around 170 largely Chinese entities allegedly involved in illegal fishing throughout the Pacific, which Western officials say Beijing has used not only to feed the world’s largest population, but also to help the Communist government expand its maritime power through the establishment of a network of ports outside of China.

Besides exhausting fishing stocks critical to the ecosystem more broadly, analysts say China uses its fishing vessels to further its geopolitical aims. “China’s national and local governments recruit some commercial fishing vessels into maritime militia activity,” the Congressional Research Service said in an April report for lawmakers. Government officials then “require them to operate in specified waters to defend national sovereignty rights, participate in training and sovereignty defense, and provide support to the PLA in combat,” the CRS said, referring to the People’s Liberation Army, China’s military.

One U.S. official said sanctions had also been drafted to list Chinese entities allegedly involved in human-rights abuses against Tibetans. Beijing has used its security forces as part of an effort to control the group, human-rights groups say, harassing suspected followers of Tibet’s exiled spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama.

ORAC 9th Dec 2022 14:51

Smokers or welding I wonder?

In Barnaul, Russia, the Altai Tire Plant is on fire. The plant also produces tires for military equipment.

RatherBeFlying 9th Dec 2022 15:51


The bulk of the expected sanctions are to be imposed under the Global Magnitsky Act, named after a whistleblower who died in a Moscow jail after accusing officials of corruption.The U.S., by using those powers to sanction high-profile government, military and business officials accused of human-rights abuses and corruption, says it aims to hold them accountable and deter others.….
Mohammed bin Salman is definitely eligible. But we need his oil.:mad:​​​​​​​

fdr 9th Dec 2022 16:04


Originally Posted by uxb99 (Post 11344906)

Stocktake.

fdr 9th Dec 2022 16:06


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11344901)
Rossiskaja Gazeta claims that Russian scientists have created "Antidote against HIMARS: air defence received a new program that allows you to shoot down American missiles"

A lot of salt with it and a lot is cope material, but interesting article to see what is being fed to the Russian population.

Russian antidote to Himars, a white flag.

macmp419 9th Dec 2022 16:12


Originally Posted by fdr (Post 11345039)
Russian antidote to Himars, a white flag.

Darn, that is another new keyboard on order :D

Beamr 9th Dec 2022 16:24

So, according to Putin the West is guilty of genocide in Ukraine killing and raping civilians.



Confusious 9th Dec 2022 16:27


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11345050)
So, according to Putin the West is guilty of genocide in Ukraine killing and raping civilians.

https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/...55128240721920

This is a man who's clearly losing it in every sense.

Beamr 9th Dec 2022 16:42

This is painful to watch. Makes me want to send 'em my kids old velcro boots. They haven't needed those since they were six.



Winemaker 9th Dec 2022 16:51


Originally Posted by The Helpful Stacker (Post 11344867)
I still find it absolutely baffling that the Russian military has never mastered the use of the humble pallet.

Their logistics strategy is not just dated, it's Napoleonic.

To use pallets you need lift trucks, and for field work you would need a big tired farm type, so I suspect the lack of such equipment is what drives all the manual loading. The Russkies also unload their trains by hand.......

GlobalNav 9th Dec 2022 19:38


Originally Posted by Confusious (Post 11345054)
This is a man who's clearly losing it in every sense.

You're not the only one to equate immorality, dishonesty, and criminal behavior with mental illness. The truth is, this guy and his henchmen are simply wicked and evil and deserve biblical judgement for their acts.

langleybaston 9th Dec 2022 19:41


Originally Posted by GlobalNav (Post 11345128)
You're not the only one to equate immorality, dishonesty, and criminal behavior with mental illness. The truth is, this guy and his henchmen are simply wicked and evil and deserve biblical judgement for their acts.

Yes, and even the Archbishop of Canterbury agrees with you ..... sort of!
tt stops short of praying for Ukrainian Victory though.



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