Originally Posted by Hot 'n' High (Post 10799670)

Then, of course, there is that variation of "for stop and go"! Did cause the helo some way behind me on Final to query it with ATC who pointed out that "stop" means ... erm ... "stop" in a tone of voice that implied that, if the RW pilot couldn't figure that out, maybe he shouldn't have been flying that evening! :p

The scenario? Years ago now on my Nite QCC to Norwich where I'd pre-arranged the landing fee but, of course the regs required a full stop landing followed by a separate departure. However, the regs never said anything about actually having to taxi anywhere between arrival and departure so I was most grateful to ATC for that one and for the airport having a nice long runway (for a PA-28 if I recall). Saved a few minutes on the ground .... and annoyed a RW jock! :ok:

Ah, happy daze! H 'n' H

Originally Posted by wiggy (Post 10797945)

Continues the thread drift by asking: so "downwind to roll" is now "down wind to touch and go"?

Originally Posted by scarecrow450 (Post 10796905)

No ATIS as it was a Bank Holiday, entered a MATZ with out 2 way contact, landed at a military afd without permission and did not have permission to land there oh and was he covered insurance wise to land at a military afd oh and in a foreign registered aircraft.

If ATC is closed, as it was there are no red flares to fire, besides bet he'd ignore it anyway !

Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 10801327)

Common sense and professional airmanship if you wish to pass close enough....

Originally Posted by MaxR (Post 10801312)

Putting everything else to one side, who says a civvie needs two way contact to enter a MATZ?

Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 10801792)

The pilot of a civil aircraft does not need any formal permission to enter or transit a MATZ; however, permission IS needed to enter the included Aerodrome Traffic Zone (ATZ).

ATZs at military aerodromes are normally H24 unless promulgated otherwise.

Originally Posted by Easy Street (Post 10801908)

Valley’s ATZ is indeed H24. So the pilot is in breach of Rule of the Air 45 because he didn’t get ATC approval to enter it (there being no exemption within that rule for accessing active ATZs outside ATS operating hours, ie there is no legal mechanism within the Rules for calling ‘x’ times without reply before proceeding).

Originally Posted by treadigraph (Post 10796705)

Probably uses Google Maps for navigation...

Originally Posted by AnglianAV8R (Post 10805737)

That seems perfectly reasonable, as they are updated fairly regularly. My Little Chef map (with my carefully scribed updates) is a little tatty at the edges and I may well decide to embrace the 20th Century. I might get me ome one of those smart telling-bone jobbies and try this new fangled map system.

Originally Posted by treadigraph (Post 10805749)

:)
I do hope your Little Chef map is sufficiently up to date to include the Southend Arterial Road?

Originally Posted by AnglianAV8R (Post 10805775)

Always sufficiently updated for the purpose flight I'm engaged in

Originally Posted by pasta (Post 10805790)

And you've crossed out the Little Chefs themselves, right?

Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 10797137)

At an airport near me many moons ago, an impounded 707 or more likely a DC8 was held until some debts were cleared, they had towed it to the wash bay and blocked it in with a de-ice truck. When cleared to leave he got the last laugh, his outboards overhung the edge of the taxiway and as he poured on the coals to climb the hill he departed in a cloud of low flying raised taxiway lighting.. he took them all out.

Originally Posted by scarecrow450 (Post 10972346)

£4000 fine !


'Arrogant' millionaire pilot landed at RAF base during lockdown to 'see the beach' - Mirror Online