It is a very good news. Luckily, no logistics infrastructures have been deployed there that would result in extra money to take them out. Hope local politicians start understanding they should not trust or rely too much on Iran, especially in military aspects. I wonder if they would recall that Assad is the Iranian puppet, in the first instance?

Turkey is now shelling both sides in a bid to allow some 1,500 Turkish-backed Syrian rebels gathered in the Turkish city of Gaziantep, to drive IS out of Jarablus.

Turkey shells both IS and Kurdish positions in Syria - BBC News

I sit here sipping my coffee, and wonder what the RoE is for this particular fight. *scratches head* Glad I'm not the one answering the calls for fire.

Both main hospitals directly attacked and destroyed by either a Russian or Syrian aircraft using PGMs. Reports are attack was by a single aircraft which took out first one one of the hospitals, then the other.

Looks like a premeditated and planned attack, neither accidental nor collateral damage.

UN Sec Gen rightly classifies this as a war crime. Meanwhile, the slaughter continues.

So hitting a Hospital is a war crime.................... interesting.

I doubt that Mr Assad, and Mr Putin, give a flying fart what the UN Sec Gen has to say.

What an utter sh*tstorm this is! The World media have an absolute duty to present the full abhorrence of this situation to every home across the globe. The image of the poor, drowned migrant toddler on the beach was enough to rouse the international communities to respond with meaning; this situation goes way beyond that one IMHO. Action thus far has been weak.

Release the footage, the evidence, the horror and show Russia and Syria for what they really are.

Utter barbarians!

When US (or NATO which is the same) hits an hospital it's a mistake or a collateral damage.
When it's the other side it's a war crime.

This time over Syria the farce of no-fly zones as they were implemented over Bosnia or Irak will not happen, thanks to Su-35 and S-400.
I understand a truce has to be enforced, as for the moment the US-backed islamist insurgents (the so-called "moderate" ones) are clearly losing ground.

When instead of Aleppo it was Dresden or Hamburg or even Le Havre, the world media was not so present.

The Syrian horror show effects both sides, yet no western media outlet shows the mangled kids on Assad's side.
Reports from Syrian on social media state that mysterious transport aircraft with no markings are seen dropping supplies to ISIS positions, Bizarre.

Plenty of posters here get on the "war crime" bus as soon as a building is reported to be hit by someone from the US. (The one in Kandahar within the last year or two is a case in point).
Unlike them, I don't assume that what the news reports spit out initially is some how Gospel.


For example in this case: if someone was shooting at the aircraft, or the troops who the aircraft are supporting, from the roof of that hospital, they turned the hospital into a fighting position by that very act.
Hmm ... a fighting position is a valid target.

Give this some time. What really happened? Neither you nor I know, beyond "something blowed-up, sir." .

15 years after 9/11 US is supporting Al Qaeda.

US / UK and other Nato members forces are in a Sovreign country supporting a side in a Civil war who are happy to slaughter and murder in their barbarity to get on TV.

We have seen what happened in Libya when it was pretty obvious what the end result would be.

Something tells me that indiscriminately (i.e. dropping whole sticks of non-precision Russian weapons) laying waste to swathes of urban areas, known to be occupied with vulnerable children, women and men - and using thermobaric warheads!!?? - is not a valid comparison with how the "west" do their business.

On the subject of collateral then yes, by definition, if something other than the intended target was inadvertently hit in this instance, it's "collateral damage." But....you don't drop entire sticks of thermobaric weapons if your targeting assessment shows there's a high risk to others - ergo, this is either deliberate (they knew), or they aren't considerate of CDM and are inept. Both conclusions are despicable IMHO.

Could be propaganda from the Syrian side but I sense a lot more truth in then we have been fed by our media outlets and our governments. Worth watching the video.

That video has more fluff than content -- but her perspective from seeing stuff in Syria is of interest. Takes to long for that talking head to get to the point, and the bias is obvious. It's value is in getting someone who's been around there to describe things with a different narrative slant than the daily sound bytes most commonly transmitted from "mainstream news."

I actually found it quite balanced, more so than the BBC / C4 fodder we are fed, as far as i know Assad was democratically elected with observers from the UN verifying the election.
The west reason for being there is to force through a gas pipeline that Assad has redused and to exploit the countries natural resources.
The female being interview is British so I can see a sense of balance in what is being reported.
You see for years we have witnessed wars in the middle east, each one pretty horrific but this time the effects are now being felt in Europe and the USA as mass immigration is now the norm. All so that a few multinationals can make a few bucks...
Have a look at Yemen, I had to look for it on a map such as the threat it posed to the west and how western weapons used by our mates the Saudis are causing havoc and yet more bad feeling and ultimately terrorism. Yet no covergae on BBC or C4....funny old world.

DroneDog,


Right observation about Yemen, IMHO. Surprisingly, there is quite a little noise about Yemen in the Russian media as well, though many issues there are more tough than in Syria, including massive casualties of the civil population. I would expect much more accusations towards "Saudi vassals of US".

Russian State-sponsored trolling. Never trust anything you read on forums.

Yes, yes, it works both ways. I know....