Sound like a hit. Hope they find the jerk who did this. :mad:

I can't see a 'pro' using a 'pump rifle'.....whatever one of those is...?!

Presumably it was either a pump action shotgun or an automatic rifle - the end result is pretty much the same when used at close range against an un-armoured target........

4Rock:

There's lots of pump action, (also known as Slide Action), rifles. They tend to be most common chambered for .22LR but here's a .223.

Link

Err, no it doesn't. It does not say who was responsible and it does not say where the rockets were launched from and who held the territory at that time. Stop just regurgitating UK/US propaganda - lots of people are, if not lying, stating half thruths as fact in this one. :rolleyes:

Edited to ask where the report states: ?

I must be missing that in the UN report.

Not something of course that happened in Iraq; why are we not surprised that the public are sceptical.

Of course Afg was much better, quick in and out, one year, not a shot fired.:\

According to UN report "reverse azimuth" analysis, NNE from Moadarmiyeh is the Mezzeh Military Airport. Thus the Soviet 140mm M-14 rockets with sarin-filled warheads found there were launched from the Mezzeh military airport area (as I have said earlier on this thread). Something validated by:

Eclectic, that statement is wholly useless.

While the origin and equipment cited may both be correct you have not qualified who was in control of the airfield at the time. Was the airfield controlled in depth? Who controlled the airfield at the time? Who controlled the target area?

The airfield is ENE from your stated target area. That suggests that the firing location or target are pretty vague.

I read somewhere and I can't find the article that Turkey had already
warned Syria that they would shoot down Syrian Helicopters if
they strayed over the border or if they were in Syrian Air space
and firing towards Turkey.

I think this occurred after an earlier incident earlier this year as
I vaguely remember the date on the article being June or July.

Mezzeh Military Airport is the home of Assad's 2nd mechanised. Part of his elite forces. It has been in Assad's hands continuously throughout the conflict.

Map: Mezzeh Military Airport
Mezzeh Wiki: Mezzeh - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

500N,

Turkey did say exactly that after the F4 was shot down. First week of July, if memory serves. They had a number of Syrian helos approach the border and they scramble the F-16s, but the helos did not cross the border then so they left them alone.

It's good ROE, though.

Thanks Courtney, that would have been it.

I just can't find the article which had the paragraph in it
but it seemed pretty B&W to me what they would do
and now they have done it.

Agree it is good ROE.


I wonder if Syria was calling Turkey's bluff to see what
they would do s a precursor to a later action ?

Video footage of FSA/AlQ animals shooting at unarmed aircrew floating down on parachutes from said helicopter.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fe5_1379358778
There is more footage of the poor guys head they captured on another thread.

RIP. :(

Wonder was GF a FSB plant and someone needed to settle a score and send a strong message ?

FSA and AQI are the vilest of primitive savages. I hope they all rot. :mad:

Re helicopter. These were the guys dropping barrel bombs, white phosphorous and sarin on bread queues.
Re FSA. Up against the Turkish border it is more likely to be ISIS, al Nusra or the Kurds.
It is a nasty war. In May Assad forces entered some Sunni villages and spent a couple of days ethnically cleansing. About 800 civilians killed, including many women and children.
http://baniasmassacre.********.co.uk/

I understand the sentiments, but I must have missed the bit in the video where they shot the aircrew in their parachutes?

It will be such fun for the FSA and other rebels if Assad wins this:ok:

Courtney:

Maybe I'm way out of the loop but I want to know what aircrew are parachuting from a falling helicopter...

Footage of the downed aircraft and parachutes here.....

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=2d4_1379349462
Disturbing footage shows Syrian helicopter pilot who was 'shot down by Turkish forces and then beheaded by rebels' | Mail Online

Russia Today is now spinning the Jihadist video for all they are worth.;)
You can almost hear the Syrian intelligence network trying to play the Russians on this one.

AFP are reporting that the Syrians have handed over materials implicating the rebels in the chemical attack.
Russia is also being reported as saying that the UN report is "biased and one-sided".

Anyone predict what is going to appear next from the Syrians?
Will they now 'capture' a Jihadist unit (Specifically Liwa al-Islam) and their stockpile of the unidentified rockets as featured in the UN report?
The Russians have reportedly linked Liwa al-Islam to the attack and the video claiming to be from the 21st August features the group and their flags.

There is also reportedly a high explosive variant of the unidentified munition that features in the UN report.