Here it comes: Syria
 

Well done Barack Obama .....

I hope Congress votes no.

What it is really about is money. Forget about Kerry's crocodile's tears.

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Alex Jones.

ha ha ha.

nice one Stuffy.

Alex Jones did not write the article.

Aw, we're best buddies again - part of Obama's speech

"As a consequence, many people have advised against taking this decision to Congress and undoubtedly they were impacted by what we saw happen in the United Kingdom this week when the Parliament of our closest ally failed to pass a resolution with a similar goal, even as the Prime Minister supported taking action.

He also said BBC News - Obama: US Congress should authorise Syria military action "I am the President of the world's oldest constitutional democracy". Hmmmmm....

Perhaps his extended phone call was to CmD, apologising for Kerry's comments?

Kerry epitomises everything wrong about the oo-ess-of-aye. A blinkered obsession with a personal agenda with scant regard for any independent evidence.

World's oldest constitutional democracy my ar$e. Democracy was born more than 2200 years before Uh-merica was invented....:rolleyes:

But was there a written constitution?

You don't remember...???

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Beagle, Pontius et al,

Without getting myself a reputation for grovelling. I have more respect for yourselves and most of the other contributors to PPRUNE, than I would ever have for "Stoneface" Kerry. Barely 24 hours ago he's "shoving it to the Brits" on our failure to support American policy. Today Paddy Obama decides to duck the issue and throw it at Congress. If they reflect, as did our parliament, the American people's opinion, they will be stopped dead in their tracks. His close cousin Paddy Ashdown, with his shame for being British also begs some believing. Meanwhile a little research reveals;

"Agent Orange is the combination of the code names for Herbicide Orange (HO) and Agent LNX, one of the herbicides and defoliants used by the U.S. military as part of its chemical warfare program, Operation Ranch Hand, during the Vietnam War from 1961 to 1971. Vietnam estimates 400,000 people were killed or maimed, and 500,000 children born with birth defects as a result of its use" From Wikipedia.

A little research by Mr Kerry of his own countries' history might make him a little less critical of a real democratic decision, and of his own hypocrisy on the matter. Ashdown might care to reflect on his disrespect for the democratic principle. There's a lot of political waffle going on at the moment, but I honestly believe that the decision that our parliament took on Thursday was the right one.

Smudge

In some slightly more recent and relevant history than 1776, the cafeterias in Congress were directed in 2003 to rename French Fries to "Freedom Fries" and French Toast to "Freedom Toast". This followed the French refusal to partake in the invasion of Iraq led by the US.

A loyal and trusted ally indeed, funny how that nice Mr Kerry forgot all about this bit of history and the associated resurgence into popular American usage of the phrase "cheese eating surrender monkeys".

This whole incident tells you nothing new about historic alliances, but confirms what a bunch of lying, self-serving crooks ALL politicians are.

Constitution
 

The lack of a single codified constitution does not mean we are not a constitutional democracy.

I suspect that there's an appropriate phrase ending with "the key to flexibility".

The trouble comes when government benches are populated by un-thinking sheep but Thursday night was not such.

Back to cokecan's comment - such a nutritious drink.

If you like 'bimbo' news, watch Fox or CNN.

I Write: Following the Kondratiev Long Wave economic cycle. The bottom of the depression should be 2014, or 2015.
The last depression in the 1930's, bottomed out in 1934. This was when the work on the two Cunard Queens, stopped.

During the period of the bottom of the depression, the public have no desire or appetite for war. There is no money for a war. I expect this to be reflected in Congress. With another no.

IMHO, I expect a quiet and poor period for five years, until 2019, when things start to hot up.

The US is at the edge of an economic abyss.

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Mr Kerry ... Never trust a man who uses that much hairspray ... correction ... Never trust a man who uses hairspray period :mad:

Politics aside it is hard to see so many people being slaughtered without feeling revulsion and thinking something has to be done... The question remains by whom.

The acid test is what will the un and the rest of the Arab world do. Saudi Arabia et al have some of the most powerful air arms in the world. It would be nice to know that green flag excercise is being put to some practical use.

I wait with worm on tongue to see what tommorrow's un weapon inspection report brings and hopefully it won't be an essay in fence sitting ( I am very aware it is not to say whom used but were they in fact chem munitions ) . Hopefully, the right people will make the right decision what ever that may be!

I do wonder if it's a coincidence Channel 4 is running the 911 programme again.

An interesting aside made on FOX this afternoon by a retired Naval Officer....."During all these phone calls this morning.....maybe one of them reported that Iran and Syria were in fact going to attack Israel if the American Attack took place....and it scared off Obama?"

Not out of the realm of possibility is it?

No, something spooked him.

As I said on the other thread, this gives him an "out" and to let things
cool down a bit.

dagenham - my thoughts exactly. Obama should get on the front foot and shame them for not doing enough. Even more reason to Arabise the conflict if Syria/Iran are threatening to strike at Israel.

I'm beginning to wonder if Putin has also thought this through very much.