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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
(Post 10143453)
@TEEEJ: thanks for that video.
Update on the Pantsir footage. https://www.pprune.org/military-avia...l#post10143403 It appears that the Pantsir was hit by an IAI Harop drone. From information released it was Lt Colonel Ayham Habib that was seen in the video running to the Pantsir. First Lieutenant Ali Essa Mustafa was also killed. https://baomoi-photo-1-td.zadn.vn/w7...4/3_58010.jpeg http://www.dogswar.ru/images/stories...et/HAROP-3.jpg Details at following Twitter link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IAI_Harop |
Pretty clever piece of tech the Harop.
I guess there's always the option to "Kamikaze" a UAV onto a high value target-of-opportunity even if it weren't purpose-built for such use. |
Glad to see the post putting the human face on someone trying to do their job. Lt Colonel Ayham Habib (whether you like the current Syrian regime or not) and his crew were doing their best to deal with an attack on their country's base.
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Originally Posted by dead_pan
(Post 10144276)
Felt a nad sorry for the bloke who ran to the vehicle just before the missile impacted - I'm guessing he realised he'd left his phone in the cab? Mind you I guess the group of guys stood chatting just to the vehicle's left didn't fare too well either.
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Originally Posted by henra
(Post 10146806)
It is about the last job I would do in Military.
Interesting declaration by Mr Putin today: he's asserting that all foreign troops will leave Syria. I am a bit puzzled: does he have that much influence with Iran and Hezbollah? He can probably negotiate a deal with the US/NATO, but Iran? Hezbollah seems to be well out of reach; they live in that neighborhood. (I'd heard some interesting stuff about their developing a UAV capabiity but won't comment further on that). |
Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
(Post 10150587)
Yeah.
Interesting declaration by Mr Putin today: he's asserting that all foreign troops will leave Syria. I am a bit puzzled: does he have that much influence with Iran and Hezbollah? He can probably negotiate a deal with the US/NATO, but Iran? Hezbollah seems to be well out of reach; they live in that neighborhood. (I'd heard some interesting stuff about their developing a UAV capabiity but won't comment further on that). IMHO, he has very little influence on Iran and no influence on Hez at all. |
Huge explosions rock Syrian airbase At least 11 Syrian soldiers have been killed in a massive explosion at an airbase in Hama, according to the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights. Sky News Arabia reported that dozens of members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards were also killed in the blast in the central part of the country. It said surface-to-air missiles systems had been the target of an attack. Footage allegedly from the scene showed a mushroom-shaped plume of smoke towering above the skyline. The string of blasts hit a rocket, fuel and weapons store within the strategic military airport, 150 miles north of Damascus. It is also home to forces from Syria’s closest two allies: Iran and Hezbollah, the Lebanese Shia militia group. The Syrian regime confirmed the explosions but declined to specify the cause. Rami Abdurrahman, director of SOHR, said: “Latest reports say it was a technical problem within the weapons storage, that contained naval mine equipment, rocket and fuel supplies. So far we know of 11 dead, all Syrian,” He added that the Hama airbase was where Syrian regime warplanes take off to carry out airstrikes on central and northern Syria. Sources told Sky News Arabia that 57 members of the Iranian Revolutionary Guards died in the explosions. It speculated that Israel was behind the attack. Israel has repeatedly hit Iran’s military infrastructure in Syria, fearing it is building permanent bases in Syria from which to attack Israel. Last Thursday Israel launched 70 separate airstrikes on Iranian targets in Syria, in retaliation for what it claimed was an unsuccessful Iranian rocket attack on its forces in the occupied Golan Heights. They targeted multiple areas around Damascus including al-Kiswah military base, where the Iranian Grad and Fajr rockets were allegedly fired from. The Israeli army declined to comment to The Times. Al Jazeera Arabic reported that the Syrian regime transferred a large part of Iran’s weaponry and personnel to Hama military airport, after other bases in Hama were hit in suspected Israeli strikes. |
The first four paragraphs are coherent. The rest is... speculation? Give it 48 hours and see, maybe?
The comments under Ali El Moussa 19 hours ago Easy lads getting info that this was a place where they have been keeping confescated weapons from ISIS and other terror organisations. Dont know THE details but. Dont think anyone striked aginst syria. So lets get more info before we start blameing left and right. |
Obviously just a ‘controlled’ disposal of captured ordinance then.
Nothing to see, move along now. |
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 10150679)
Rami Abdurrahman, director of SOHR, said: “Latest reports say it was a technical problem within the weapons storage, that contained naval mine equipment, rocket and fuel supplies.
OK, admitted an air strike will undoubtedly lead to technical problems in a weapons storage, so there will be some truth to that statement. |
Just goes to show how the West has lost the information war...
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IAF admits combat for the Stubbie
Salute!
Aviationist has the poop. And it may be a player for the big explosions a few days ago. Gums sends... |
Originally Posted by gums
(Post 10153819)
Salute!
Aviationist has the poop. And it may be a player for the big explosions a few days ago. Gums sends... Snip:- Israel is the first country to have used the F-35 stealth aircraft in combat, the Israeli Air Force Commander, Maj. Gen. Amikam Norkin said on Tuesday, in remarks that were made public through the IDF’s official Twitter account. According to Haaretz, the Chief of IAF also presented images, that have not surfaced thus far, showing the F-35I over Beirut, Lebanon and said that the stealth fighter did not participate in the last strike in Syria but did in two previous ones. “The Adir planes are already operational and flying in operational missions. We are the first in the world to use the F-35 in operational activity,” he said. |
Salute!
TNX Lyne, was in a hurry and had to depart the fix. Recall that I have a personal and vested interest in the IAF from long ago. So I taught and flew with the initial IAF Viper cadre back in 1980. Only one I clearly remember from later years was the young one that died in Columbia. They all used pseudonyms and we did not even know where they lived in Ogden or their phone numbers. They called in for the flight schedule times. Security was extreme. The senior dude was about my age and experience, and the rest were progressively younger on down to the "golden boy" who became an astronaut. I am sure that most flew in the Iraqi nuke attack just one year later. So we see a repeat of what they did for the nuke reactor building a few years back, huh? The big problem for IAF is showing their "hole cards" too early. So I would not see a lotta missions using the F-35 until a large conflict. Gums sends... |
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8370781.html The truth about the brutal four-hour battle between Russian mercenaries and US commandos in Syria “......Commanders of the rival militaries had long steered clear of the other by speaking through often-used deconfliction telephone lines. In the days leading up to the attack, and on opposite sides of the Euphrates River, Russia and the US were backing separate offensives against the Isis in Syria’s oil-rich Deir el-Zour province, which borders Iraq. US military officials repeatedly warned about the growing mass of troops. But Russian military officials said they had no control over the fighters assembling near the river – even though US surveillance equipment monitoring radio transmissions had revealed the ground force was speaking in Russian. The documents described the fighters as a “pro-regime force,” loyal to President Bashar al-Assad of Syria. It included some Syrian government soldiers and militias, but US military and intelligence officials have said a majority were private Russian paramilitary mercenaries – and most likely a part of the Wagner Group, a company often used by the Kremlin to carry out objectives that officials do not want to be connected to the Russian government. “The Russian high command in Syria assured us it was not their people,” defence secretary Jim Mattis told senators in testimony last month. He said he directed Gen Joseph F Dunford Jr, chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, “for the force, then, to be annihilated.” “And it was.”....... |
That must have been a thought provoking little exercise for Russian forces in Syria.
Watching their debadged proxies have their arses handed to them...in pieces. So much for Putin’s 'Russian Heros.' |
Without knowing the details of this engagement, the availability of a B-52 strike suggests the US had full knowledge of the planned assault. It takes time for a B-52 to reach the Mid East, even if it is prepared and loaded beforehand.
So the aircraft must have been airborne when the assault started. The lesson learned by the Russians will surely included much more emphasis on planning secrecy, as well as better monitoring of the surrounding air space. |
etudiant, The B-52s were based at Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar where a detachment had been deployed for nearly 2 years. Only jus5 been rotated for a B-1 deployment. |
Originally Posted by etudiant
(Post 10158636)
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The lesson learned by the Russians will surely included much more emphasis on planning secrecy, as well as better monitoring of the surrounding air space. As far as I read, there were two (or more) mobs fighting for oil-rich locations in Syria. One mob hired Russian mercenaries (or volunteers, whatever) who were recruited on an individual basis by the Wagner company. They are poorly equiped thus "monitoring of the air space" is not applicable here at all. Regarding tactics, their punpkin-headed client simply commanded "go and fight" so they quickly found themselves in a helpless situaion. The fact that the Russian military made it clear to the US forces that they did not care much about the mobs' businesses testifies to a nearly zero coupling to those mercenaries. I think that similar US "Blackwater" (now "Academia") guys are more tightly linked to or coordinated by the regular forces. |
etudiant, The B-52s were based at Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar where a detachment had been deployed for nearly 2 years. Only jus5 been rotated for a B-1 deployment. |
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