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Warmtoast 23rd Oct 2012 15:29

Have to go back a few years for these photos I took at 5 FTS (RAF Thornhill, S. Rhodesia) in 1952 -53.

Sadly I wasn't into colour photography in those days.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...l/Harvard2.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...talFormati.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...atalForm-2.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...atalForm-1.jpg

A couple of days later these two Harvards collided in mid-air at Salisbury, killing the three occupants.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...ipmunkT105.jpg

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...hipmunkT10.jpg

CoffmanStarter 23rd Oct 2012 16:31

Warmtoast ...

Nice Chipmunk pics. Were these part of the 21 Harvards and 17 Chipmunks shipped out to the RATG ?

Best

Coff.

Warmtoast 23rd Oct 2012 17:01


Were these part of the 21 Harvards and 17 Chipmunks shipped out to the RATG ?
They were indeed, but many more aircraft were involved.

5 FTS had 27 Chipmunks for primary training, about 60 Harvards for advanced training and 12 Ansons for navigational training. The Ansons were returned to the UK when 3 ANS at Thornhill closed at the end of September 1951.

The 27 Chipmunk T.10s allocated to 5 FTS were built at Hawarden near Chester, crated and shipped out to Durban in South Africa. At Durban the crates were transferred to rail trucks for the journey to 394 MU at RAF Heany near Bulawayo where they were assembled, flight tested and then flown up to Thornhill.

The Harvards were shipped to Ysterplaat near Cape Town, assembled by the RAF Erection Unit based there and flown up to Rhodesia by instructors from the RATG.

RAF Heany (4 FTS) - 100-miles south near Bulawayo had a similar number of aircraft, but no Ansons.

CoffmanStarter 23rd Oct 2012 17:37

Many thanks Warmtoast ...

It's a great shame that WG335 and WG351 didn't survive ... can't make out the serial of "32" in the first pic or the other chipmunk in the formation ... any idea ?

Best ...

Coff.

Warmtoast 23rd Oct 2012 19:37


It's a great shame that WG335 and WG351 didn't survive
No it was the two Harvards FX373 and FX431 that collided at the Rhodes Centenary Air Rally at Salisbury in June 1953.

I can't resolve the serial number of Chipmunk G32 in the photo, it's just too small.

CoffmanStarter 23rd Oct 2012 20:25

Warmtoast ...

WG335 : Reported : Engine failed during overshoot Moffat, Southern Rhodesia 10.3.1953.

WG351 : Reported : Crashed (out of fuel !) New South Wales 2.9.1965 was under a civilian serial of VH-SJD.

PS. I've just noticed that both your pics are in "Chipmunk The Poor Man's Spitfire" (page 277) ... so I guess you know Rod Brown :ok:

Warmtoast 23rd Oct 2012 22:41

Excuse the thread drift.

Coff


PS. I've just noticed that both your pics are in "Chipmunk The Poor Man's Spitfire" (page 277) ... so I guess you know Rod Brown
I recall a Chipmunk enthuisast based/living at Booker ISTR wanting to use some of my photos a few years ago, but can't remember his name, so assume Rod may be the one. Normally if people want to use my photos commercially I give permission, only requesting that the photo be attributed to me.

A couple more from my album.

http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...pmunkT10-1.jpg
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r...l-Chipmunk.jpg

This one (WG272) was the first Chipmunk to arrive at to 5 FTS in September 1951.

CoffmanStarter 24th Oct 2012 07:24

Warmtoast ... Check PM's ... :ok:

Best ...

Coff.

Cornish Jack 24th Oct 2012 14:18

Thunderbird 7 - Devon VP977:ok:

stickmonkeytamer 24th Oct 2012 16:50

Another few views out the office window...

http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/o...r7pairscan.jpg

http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/o...024zg797fi.jpg

http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/o...ps2854270e.jpg

http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/o...erclosea2a.jpg

http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/oo116/sband/gr71.jpg

http://i367.photobucket.com/albums/o...pclose1997.jpg

SMT

Fishtailed 24th Oct 2012 23:28

Great shots SMT

Over the Irish sea on a dull January day-

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...awk2011003.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...011015crop.jpg


http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...k2011002-1.jpg

Clear over Windermere.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...awk2011013.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...awk2011011.jpg

Fishtailed 26th Oct 2012 09:03

The following day, much brighter over the Irish Sea.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...percy11023.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...percy11029.jpg

someone stalking us?

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...percy11001.jpg

Here he is

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...percy11025.jpg

Another coming up port side

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...percy11019.jpg

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f2...y11007crop.jpg

Just This Once... 26th Oct 2012 09:07

Fish, that rear cockpit looks familiar...:ok:

McC 26th Oct 2012 22:42

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w...awks/Hawk4.jpg

:ok:

GTPerformer 26th Oct 2012 23:44

a crisp March morning over the Lake District

http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/8...kkyo8567d6.jpg

Fishtailed 28th Oct 2012 17:13

Sorry for the drift, but what aircraft is the panel from, under 'Pre start checks' in post No 69

sycamore 28th Oct 2012 17:41

Standby AI looks u/s ...

NutLoose 28th Oct 2012 18:06

Fishtail, would say JP 5

See

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3268/...c085b70990.jpg

http://www.gbairspares.co.uk/cockpitfest/3619/46769.jpg

Fishtailed 29th Oct 2012 01:52



Fishtail, would say JP 5
Don't think so by comparison.

Pontius 29th Oct 2012 02:51

It's certainly JP-ish (my dislike of the aircraft has led to me trying to purge images of it from my memory). The top of the handle visible to the right of the central throttle quadrant is related to pressurisation, so it has to be a 5 or possibly a Strikemaster (I've never seen the inside of one of those). It's got a few extras than the basic military model, so I'm going for civvy JP5 (with mods to shut the CAA up) or a Strikemaster.


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