Many aiirline fly to Teheran too. Doesn't mean their governments support Iran..

keesje, it probably does.

In your previous post you were almost realistic:

Your scenarios would certainly be embarrassing but your suggestion that they would be not so unlikely is where your suggestions fail. Any idea what even 1,000 people involve?

Little problems like a sewage, food, heating fuel, dry ground, shelter. I love the idea of camp fires. What do you suggest they use for fuel? the old need medical care and medicines, civilians are largely untrained in adventurous activities at any time let alone sub-arctic survival.

Try and think inside the box first before you try and open it.

Keesje,

My question was why do you support Argentina's claim to the Falklands despite the islanders expressing their wish to stay British but then claim that Venezuela would have no claim to Aruba despite them being much closer to the mainland

Rob

Venezuela considers part of British Guyana as part of their country, hence their support of Argentina.

Guyana

All Anglo presence on the continent is seen as nothing less than piracy.

Could our new Voyager make the trip in a single leg (I would guess not flying south but possible when going north)?

JTO

Wiki lists the range as 8,000nm and GCMap suggests a great circle of 6,834nm from Brize. Divs could be a problem - and it would certainly be a whole lot easier if we'd ordered tankers that could themselves receive.... :ugh:

S41

The Reagan administration nearly screwed-up the 1982 war: How the U.S. Almost Betrayed Britain in the Falklands War - WSJ.com

The last intel I read stated that this might be done by a cruise liner from Brazil on which Argie troops will have boarded and simply walk off at Port Stanley. The same memo (which was not top secret) said that the Argies would be more likely to try a ground assault where there integrated with the Port Stanley population making a counter ground assault by the UK the only solution. As the Argies believe that the UK will never again send another task force they could be onto a plausible strategy.

if they come of a cruise liner they have to be boated ashore - and they'd never get past the ladies selling them (Chinese made) penguin dolls

GF....that was an American Administration that was very friendly with the UK....that is not the case today at all. Draw your own impressions from that. The current guy is half Kenyan and his alleged Father was not all that friendly to the UK either.

SASLess, that is the same administration (the one you said wouldn't win) that has twice in the last week urged us not to cut defence spending and to ensure we retain capability.

Obama may want to think again I notice the Deigo Garcia lease is due for renegotiation next year:E

Would this be the same US administration that is trying to tell the UK how to act within the EU?

Keesje,

I see that you are quoting and presenting articles from Argentine Minister of Foreign Relations, Héctor Timerman. Have you ever seen the presentation at the UN by Timerman? This is the man that claimed that HMS Vanguard (SSBN) was deployed in the South Atlantic and that you obviously take as fact.

See from 04:20



The fun and games continue at 06:56 with claims that the UK has deployed Taurus missiles on Eurofighter Typhoons in the Falklands.

The presentation was poorly researched and made him look like an idiot. If this was compiled using information from Argentine Intelligence then they need sacking. The 'researcher' simply lifted the Taurus missile image from Wiki. If he/she had scrolled down then they would have found out who operates Taurus. Certainly not the UK.

File:Taurus ILA2006.JPG - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

KEPD 350 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

See more fun and games at 07:56 and another example of idiocy where he points out 'RADAR HF SUPERDARN'. He claims that it is some sort of super secret world wide communications network and part of the militarization of the South Atlantic. Obviously the compiler of the 'research' is into conspiracy theories. It is like the conspiracy loons that think High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) is a military weapon and used to control the weather and cause earthquakes. Is this the best that Argentine Military Intelligence can do? Timerman was made to look like a complete idiot. In reality it is an international project that includes China, Japan and several other nations and data is made available on the internet.

The HF radar is located at Goose Green.

http://en.mercopress.com/data/cache/.../0x0/radar.jpg

Radar system in the Falklands to monitor the Southern Lights

The radar at Goose Green joins the SuperDARN network and the data is made available on the internet.

SuperDARN: What is SuperDARN

SuperDARN: Radars List

There is also a SuperDARN radar in the Falklands that is funded by the US as part of the international project

Falkland islands radar study impacts climate research — University of Leicester

The fields of view of the Falkland Islands radar and other SuperDARN radars in the southern hemisphere (SuperDARN website).

SuperDARN Observations of Polar Mesospheric Summer Echoes — University of Leicester

This is all getting really silly, is there an election in the offing?

:ugh:

On serious note, what would it take in terms of hardware and troops to invade Argentina and, crucially, if we colonised them would it be of any use to our economy or, alternatively, couldn't we send many of the UK's new immigrants there if we owned it (a bit like sending rascals to Australia).

Perhaps we could rename Argentina "Fieldhouseland" after Sir John Fieldhouse the Naval Commander of the Falklands War! :E

Or even B*ll****land after the bearded one?

Trying to think who had the beard!

John Fieldhouse (aka Fieldmouse) - No
Peter Herbert - No
Sandy Woodward - No
Mike Clapp - No

BB=Sharky Ward

Oh okay, didn't realise we were going that far down the ladder!

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-x...arkey+Ward.jpg

Sharkey Ward is the closest thing the United Kingdom has had to a fighter ace since the Second World War (so they say). A former Commander in the Royal Navy's Fleet Air Arm he shot down three Argentinian aircraft while flying Sea Harriers during the Falklands War. He was also the commander of 801 Naval Air Squadron on Her Majesty's Ship Invincible during that conflict.

Also known as .. Pontius Navigator's best friend! ;)

...then what a shame he's turned into such a self-opinionated, bitter, single-issue bigot.