I don't think he is that hard over for the medal winning and innocent-protecting:

http://www.pprune.org/african-aviati...ml#post6244439

I really want this!
 

H,no matter how bad I want this I must also think of the future and naturally commercial aviation is nice after airforce,wouldn't you say so?Pointus how do I get a residency,any suggestion?I would give up anything to be in an F17 fighting a just war and protecting the innocent and Im 24 already.Is it so wrong to want something you would do anything to achieve?just because I applied for the KQ initio programme,which beleive me is the closest people like me get to having a chance to fly anything in kenya! doesn't mean I dont wana be a soldier to protect and serve in honour whenever duty calls and my intervention is required to bring justice to the ostracized people of the world.God bless you all.

8000 posts between you and you're still replying to a tokoloshe...

CS:)



PS. an african troll since you asked.

ouch!
 

Im I the tokoloshe? Is it meant to be an insult? i take no offence...

thanks but no thanks
 

thanks pontius for your candid post..it was worth the shot anyway,my math is universal I believe and I heard of the french foreign legion minutes ago so I guess the sky's just the begining..goodluck to all army men and women out there who conquer the skies!

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Mods, feel free to remove but I felt this was quite relevant.

Pontius Navigator
 

I was erring on taking your opinion and agree he may well just be "off the wall". After the last couple of posts (altering levels of English language skills, sheer fickleness) I decided he is trolling nonetheless, intentional or not. :suspect:

And bearing in mind that location is user defined, I could set my location to the moon if I so desired, I take no evidence from that.

Seeing as we'll never know, I'll shush myself now though to avoid this thread veering off on a tangent :cool:

After the recent news of the latest cuts to hit the RAF, how do you see recuirtment of pilots looking for say mid-late 2012.

2011-2012
 

APPLICATIONS for new pilots in the RAF are still being taken, despite reports that up to 50 trainees face the axe at a local air base.

They are still accepting applications now and are putting those who have recently applied through the selection process. If they can afford to do this now, I see no reason why they wouldn't continue to so in 2011/2012. You really are going to have to be the best of the best though, even though they are still recruiting, the number of vacancies available is sure to drop, don't take my word for it though, I'm no expert.

Let's just hope this story is true, I've wanted to join the RAF for a long time and have worked hard to prepare myself for the selection process, it would be a real dissapointment to be turned away before I even get a shot due to cuts.

Good luck to you in the future :)

T2T
 

Wednesday's brief from 22 Gp (Training) does not agree with this press story. It clearly states:

"Recruitment at AFCO's for student pilots has ceased until further notice and pilots will not be recruited again until April 2012"

CS

Quote:

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"Recruitment at AFCO's for student pilots has ceased until further notice and pilots will not be recruited again until April 2012"

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The picture I'm getting is simply one that people can APPLY, however they will not be able JOIN until April 2012. I find it hard to believe applications for pilots are not being accepted at all. For those applying for bursaries and sponsorship they are selected well before they attend IOT.

I was told, not by the RAF, but by one of the other services that they wouldn't be looking at any applications for aircrew until Summer 2012.

All RAF Aircrew recruiting now ceased until at least 2013,

Contrary to all this rumour I have just received my letter to attend OASC at the beginning of April. Applied solely for pilot and have not heard otherwise that the branch has been closed, so shall still be turning up on the date to give it a shot!

That may be because you started your application before all this came out. I went to OASC in jan and passed the apptitude was told it would be anything up to 9 months for the next visit to do leadership exercises etc.

They're still likely to accept people through the AFCO and possibly up to OASC, but the numbers being let through will be tiny and anyone who is successful will have to wait a few years before starting.

Those looking at scholarships/post-university entry should still be in luck.


Nb: the above is all conjecture and educated guess-work.

It is looking more and more unlikely that I will be able to apply for aircrew anytime soon, but I managed to get a set of pretty good 'A' level results last year so university is definately an option for me (I didn't go to university last year so I COULD join the RAF earlier this year, figures?). So if anyone has joined the RAF after going to uni, please let me know what trade you went in for and how it worked out.

Congrats for passing! I passed aptitude in January too, and was told 9 month wait, however I then received a letter claiming it would be no more than 6 months. Recently got an e-mail offering me a 'Potential Officer Visit' to Brize Norton too!

I'm just hoping there will still be some aircraft left if I do get in! :ugh:

Yes well done to both of you for getting through. Can you remember what scores you both got for pilot? As I mentioned I'm going down for the aptitude at the beginning of April also, and have asked them for some indication how long it would be until going back for the second phase but they said they don't know.
Been through all of OASC a couple of years ago and was offered a uni bursury, but then had it taken away due to medical grounds a few months later. I've managed to appeal it and have subsequently been cleared fit by them now, but need to go through the whole procedure again.

MC19 when did they tell you it would be no longer than 6 months? Is that pretty recent news?

I got 139. I received the letter about 2 weeks after I took the test! I'm not sure whether to trust it or not though.
Sorry to hear about the medical mate, good luck for April though!

what subject at Uni suitable for Aircrew
 

Hi T2 Tennant,
my son is keen to join the RAF as Aircrew. He is currently studying for an International Baccalaureate equivalent to A levels . He has been advised to go to Uni due to the recruitment issue and cutbacks. What subject will you be studying at Uni and have you been advised what subjects are recommended for graduate entry. Alternatively he is looking at the Canadian Airforce or USAF .

Greengrass, any good degree. A 2.1 is good but a 2.2 and a broad set of interests and skills can offset the lower degree.

A history or international relations degree would be suitable for Intelligence as would a science degree - analysis.

A science degree would be an asset if going for logistics.

Many Cranwell graduates have BEng.

Many Admin types have LLB.

Languages can be very useful for many tours later on.

I would disagree. A logistics degree would be an asset if going for logistics, but other than that, any degree would be fine.

Mr C, I bow to your knowledge except that Miss PN, a logistician told me that a BSc was preferred to a BA.

Greengrass:

First rule of Service life - always have a plan B. Your son is best off doing the degree he wants to do, not the degree he thinks will please OASC. The reality is that his chances of making RAF aircrew were slim and are now slimmer, so he needs a degree that will be useful to him later in life, or elsewhere in the RAF (or the RN/Army).

As it happens there is no "perfect" aircrew degree subject - they need to be numerate, but don't need a Maths degree, they need to be able to write well enough, but don't need a degree in English. They need leadership skills, but a management degree won't help. A foreign language is no bad thing - see if you can work out who we will be fighting in ten to twenty years time, perhaps.

I knew a capable Dark Blue pilot with a degree in theology, which always seemed a good choice - even if he didn't believe in God, he might have understood his mysterious ways ;)

Depends where you get your degree - I have an MA but it was in aero eng.

TS, her's was in modern history and her thesis was on Air Power. She was too slight for aircrew and was aiming at Intelligence - I know, oxymoron - except that the ratio of suppliers to intel is 3:1 and they needed loggies.

There is a desire to see the whole Log Branch as graduates with appropriate membership of a professional body - but given you don't need a degree to be a Loggie, I fail to see how there can be a degree of preference. Meh - not that I care any more :E

Unless that's a Cambridge MA i can't help think the 'true' Eng content of an MA degree is limited.

And I can't help but think that the 'true' content of a Cambridge MA which turns up in the post automatically a few years after you graduate with a BA is limited. Much rather have my well-earned postgrad MSc in hard sums thanks.

Need some advice, The RAF recently put the maths grade up to a 'B', as nailed on is this grade as I have no time to be able to retake yet I can confidently do speed sums etc.

Cesc

Not sure what you're asking, i'll let someone else pick up that issue. The gcse grade required in maths is indeed B for the aptitude branches. If you don't have that, you are not educationally eligible to apply.

Cesc,

You may be the best speed summer in the world, but unfortunately you need that Grade B, especially in the situation the RAF is in.

As I asked previously, its a simple filter exercise, who has a B/who doesn't.

I was in the same position, I have two GCSE Mathematics grades both at Higher C, one was 9 marks away from a B.

I am hoping that in June 2011 I can re-sit one module to push the grade up to a strong B.

Best of Luck.:ok:

@ Greengrass

Applied to do Maths this year, I chose to do this because it is what I am good at, your son should chose something he enjoys (he will be doing it for thee years remember). In terms of what the RAF think, I wouldn't worry too much (I think they care more about your personal development, maturity/responsibility ect)

Maths, Engineering, Sciences, History, English, Foreign languagues, logistics/management are just some decent choices of the top of my head though. As long as he doesn't take some joke of a subject where all he does is drink for three years.

Pilot intake for the financial year 2011/12 has been set a 0...targets for 2012/13 could be similar.

Source: letter of 17/3/2011, O/C OASC RAF Cranwell.

Like it or not, the situation is perfecty clear. Endex. How about giving this thread a rest for a few years then, until there is something to talk about?

Europaflyer

...because other trades and branches continue to be available...

Well back in january I scored 130 they had just changed required aptitude score for pilot to 125 up from 112. So was given it bluntly that it would take 9 months for any movement with regards to a return to cranwell and it is increasingly unlikely to be successful this time round. Thankfully when I started my application to the RAF I applied for university at the same time and am now studying Engineering. So now is the waiting game.

Also it doesn't matter what type of degree you get just do something you enjoy and can use outside the RAF if it doesn't pay off. To my knowledge the only type they dont accept are art based degree's

Edit again; When did you go down MC19 when I was there, there was only like 15 people and only 2 of us passed for pilot to my knowledge.

The RN and AAC are still hiring though.

My test date was January 12th 2011 so was up on the 11th-12th! Was the same with me, except there were about 40 candidates of varying career paths and about 3 pilots passed.

I rang RAF Cranwell earlier to get some information on our positions. They said it's likely that I'll take my exercise phase around August, and that IOT is re-opening April 2012 at the earliest!

Ha I was the day after we had a northern Irish guy from your who had failed by one mark because of the increase.