Suppose everyone is different, I just found calculus without the teacher there to guide you through certain things, saying that i did do alright with applic but no where near as hard as calc.

can akntone tell me besides flying what is the other primary roles of a pilot and also there secondary??

Primary and Secondary Roles
 

The roles of a pilot depends first of all whether they are deployed or at home.
While at home (and not on exercise) a pilot will spend usually only a little bit of time flying compared to fulfilling secondary duties. These duties will be assigned according to your level of seniority. Junior officers will usually be tasked with more squadron-based roles. These include keeping the maps up to date, ensuring everybody's log books are correct, being a PR point of contact for the squadron, being a family liason officer for those members that are deployed etc etc. Any day to day jobs you can think of to keep a squadron running have to be done by somebody.
There are also a raft of other jobs that involve keeping the base your stationed at running day to day, and it is likely you could pick up some of those responsibilities as well.
While on exercise or a deployment, pilots will spend the majority of time either planning or flying - completing the job they've trained to do.
As you become more senior through your career, the jobs you're assigned will become more complex and you will bare more responsibility.
To sum it up, the ADF is like any other organisation really - junior officers (managers) tend to be more concerned with day to day operations, and senior officers (managers) tend to be more concerned with the medium to long term strategic planning.

Thanks heaps Ryano

Got 9days till Flight screening so just want to be ready, I have read through all these posts, any other usefull tips or hits??? Like i said just want to be 150% prepared. Any info will help?

Regards Dan

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Hey guys,

Can anyone shed some light in regards to career development for pilots in the RAAF? For example, how long until you are promoted flying officer ect.? I just want to have an idea of the type of timeline one would be looking at incase I'm asked a similar question at the Board.

Thanks,

Danni

No offence intended Dilmah, but you are 15 years of age and have not attempted any part of the RAAF testing process. I don't think you are in a position to give advice to anyone at this stage..

Danni
Promotion after pilots course vaires but is put in the contract. Promotion to FLTLT is time based. I believe if ADFA and graduating as PLTOFF after ADFA and FLGOFF after 2FTS you would then be promoted to FLTLT after 3 years. Promotion after that is not time based but a min of 4 years in rank i believe.

BlackBird14
 

Oh no, you're perfectly right. I was parroting what I'd read here on the thread (almost word for word). I'll step back and shut up for the time being. ;)

Hey Guys,

I need some advice.

I'm currently residing in the UK, I have close family out in Australia in Melbourne. I am hoping to join the Military as a Pilot, currently I'm doing a degree course in Aeronautical Engineering with French.

Maybe after my degree course, I'm looking to migrate like some of my family have done so to Aus. I've enquired about gaining permeant residence in Australia, I've been told that I shouldn't have a problem

Would someone kindly outline the steps of the application processes with details of Aptitudes and what happens/ experience people have gone through during the Flight screening program. Please PM me, or post on main thread. Also, How do and on what parameters do the Defence Board select Pilots for RAAF, Army or Navy?

I'd also like some knowledge of Initial officers training and flying training in the RAAF. I'd like to hear from servicing members to give me an idea of life in the Austrailian Defence Force.

Thank You in advance,

ZD714

(I know I said I'd shut up, but I don't think this is such a sticky thing to slot my $0.02 into) ;)

Well, I'm obviously not a serving member, and hell, I haven't even finished High School or SEEN a DFR office before, but as far as the Application Process goes,

I understand you have to apply first (Over the phone, or through Home | Defence Jobs), after that, you'll be required to go to a YOU Session, where they'll talk you through a few a things/Interview you and you'll sit a basic Aptitude Test to assess your ability for the job you've applied for, and if successful there, they'll try and book you in for a Specialist Testing Date, and after that, you may/may not get a shot at Flight Screening, depending on how well you go. That's all I can recall off the top of my head, and I won't vouch for its accuracy. Hopefully someone who's been through the process (Believe me, there are plenty of people around here) can give you a more in-depth run down, but if you haven't already, reading this thread is an excellent start, since many people here have been in similar positions and made it, + There are some very informative posts you might find interesting. :)

Dilmah is correct.

You session

Assessment day

Flight screening/OSB

If you pass each of these successfully then you go into a distribution pool, the ADF then selects candidates out of the top of these pools when they need pilots. You remain in the pool for a year.

Hey Guys,
I haven't had a chance to check this thread in a while and it seems there has been a lot of repeat threads posted on here. For anyone wanting to know anything specific about the recruitment process, have a look back through this thread first. This thread is incredibly helpful but show some imitative and don't take the easy option.
This may help you in the future if you do get to OTS as I can attest to. I'm in my 6th week and to say it has been full on would be an understatement. You need to be on the ball all the time and people that take the easy option are found out very easily.
As for young guys and gals not sure about DEO or ADFA options - Don't listen to all the rumours that they wont take anyone to that is to young for DEO. There are 9 pilots on our intake, and 4 of them are under 20. Two of them are only 18 and they are holding there own very well. Be confident about your ability and show you are ready to work your ass off. On the other hand, ADFA isn't a bad idea if you know there are a few qualities you need to work on, and you get a degree at the same time.
Not sure about the intakes for next year but I'd have to agree with Ryano that there seems to be a lot of guys that have gone through recently and with not many leaving. I went to FSP with Ryano and he has great knowledge of not only the ADF but the requirements and the processes as well, well worth listening to!!
All the best for everyone going through the recruitment process at the moment!

Well actually Tony I've done it all this year and thats what I did.. my assessment day consisted of my Spec Testing. I assume everyone else's would also.

I concur with Tony, Spec Testing is done on a different day to Assesment Day...

Hey guys, I was at flight screening on the 24th Oct-7th Nov and was successful. Does anyone know when the next Army offers come out? I believe it is around March?

The rumour also at FSP was that there will only be 1 Navy, 10 SSO Army slots and 5 Raaf positions on offer. Spewin'. Not sure about GSO but I believe there are plenty.

Cheers
Chris.:ok:

I would say those rumours would ultimately be false.. I already know of 4 RAAF offers been given out for ADFA next year. There would be at least around 30 RAAF spots for pilot from what I've seen.

I think I did my spec testing and assessment day on the same day due to me not having anywhere close by to do my spec testing. Therefore I had one big session and just did it all.

From what I have heard, there will be 5 DEO offers for Raaf. The Army offers for SSO were due in Jan 10 but that may have changed.
30 offers for Raaf sounds very excessive James. There is also a rumour floating around that the recruitment drive for the start of next year has been cancelled due to the high numbers that have already been taken in, but that is yet to be confirmed.

I'm no expert, but wouldn't one applicant be a little illogical seeing as the Flight Training Process has a <50% washout rate?

How do you find out these figures? Those odds are ridiculous! Kind of disconcerting. 4 years ago they were begging for applicants, I guess they got them.

You can be cut at anytime up until when you get your wings. The failure rate is well over 50%. They say that there is only about a 7% chance of getting onto fast jets as well.
Just because you get an offer doesn't mean that it is plain sailing, the work has only just begun.