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Oh dilmah if only you read on.

I passed my Assesment day about 3 weeks ago now and i still haven't heard anything from anyone at recruiting. Normal? Abnormal?

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Incorrect, the ATAR is a ranking, therefore your ranking in the class and cohort performance is much more important. There are many people who have done extremely well, getting 90+, but their marks were dragged down due to poor cohort performance. A friend of mine went from 97 raw to 92 moderated because the class he was in was averaging about 60%, i.e, a **** mark. The only people in a class who are NOT scaled is first and last place, so 2nd to 2nd last goes into a pool and their marks are moderated according to cohort performance. Why do you think nobody likes someone who doesn't work hard in their class? They'll drag you down. However, school rank no longer matters in the ATAR system, if we were discussing the old UAI system, school rank would have to be taken into account as well.

For some more information, read the following links:
Does Rank Matter ?

there's so much b.s. flying around, i just dont know the correct answer....

There is no subject that will automatically scale you up. (except MX2 I think?)

Although what you say is true, you're still wrong if you were trying to argue what I said. 95 raw examination mark will get you close to a state ranking. If you're first, your internal mark will be the same as your external moderated. Your cohort will make no impact unless you arent ranked as strongly.

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friend of mine went from 97 raw to 92 moderated because the class he was in was averaging about 60%,

I believe you said 95 in BOTH INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL...See that external bit that you wrote? Sure I could be given a 100 internal and If i got 50 for my external mark, my itnernal mark would be aligned to 50. However, you clearly said both internal and external which just makes your argument void.

So just stop thinking you're so top **** and that you know everything

Thank you

k.thnx.bai!

Correct me if I am wrong, but in regards to Tony's statement about October being the last ADFA FSP slot, I do believe there are four slots from the 13th October - 18th December.

You are still forgetting that you wrote external, which is the centre of my argument.

Now, I don't have time to be arguing with those who can't admit that they are wrong.

So back to studying I go.

Wow, what's with the bashing?

Although, I do agree with FireBatHero.

The ATAR calculation is quite complex but he/she does seem to be correct.

Anyway, my question:

What kind of questions are you asked on assessment day?
I've done my research on the websites available but anything in particular that they ask to throw you off?

Getting 95 in both internal and external would mean that you would be getting a final HSC mark close to 100.

Remember, getting a low 80's in the exam, will be equal to 90 after moderation. So think about it, if one gets 95 in the exam, that'll be close to a 98,99,100 moderated exam mark.

That isn't even including scaling, which is then applied.

:ok:

Look here Tony...

YOU ARE WRONG!

FFS..SO STOP ARGUING.

Well actually, 95% does equal 95 raw.

Yes you are subject to aligning. But by saying 95 in both internal and external, which in terms external marks, is very very high; to the standard of a state ranking, the internal mark of 95%, which equates to a 95 raw (I think he/she is implying this), would naturally be moderated to a much higher mark.

Then, the process of scaling.

Naturally, any mark over 90 as a raw exam, and a mark over 90 internally, will scale you up, in Physics.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say there but I the confusion came between your statements of

1. Physics does not scale upwards for most marks.

This is quite true.

However, the example you gave...

2. 95% in both internal and external...

It's the external bit that really threw the problems up.

So, back to RAAF Recruitment shall we?

Thank god for that!!

I want 5 minutes of my life back....

Some interesting posts up there, makes for some entertaining reading.

Hopefully my assesment day will be as fun as my spec. testing.(Happy memories, I still can't think of a video game that can replicate the sheer insanity of the co-ordination testing)

BTW Dimah, why don't you do some gliding?, its pretty cheap and one hell of a thrill. (eg. climb from ~2000 to 9000ft in about five minutes without an engine, then cruise halfway across the state) I've been doing it for about a year now and I've already met a whole heap of interesting people, some of them ex FJ pilots. I bet you'd never be taught to spin a powered aircraft as well:cool:.

I love VCE (all my subjects except one are scaled up), that convo. really made me appreciate the simplicity of it.

G'day

To be honest, I'd be happy with ANY flying whatsoever, gliding included. My real issue is finances, barely any of the places around where I live are happy to have new employees. I'm guessing most of them filled up during the Christmas Holidays, however, my Resume should be complete with a reference or two, so hopefully my financial situation'll change soon.

My parents do give me a bit of money when I go out on the weekend with mates and that (as long as I haven't been slacking off :p), but I'll be a hermit by the time those $10 and $20 notes add up to enough money for lessons, so a job is the more viable option.

Yeah, I think gliding is probably the cheapest form of flying apart from being a pilot. Save up some money and give it a shot, you could also see if your parents would be willing to chip in some. After all, if you do get into ADFA they won't have to pay a thing.

Just make sure your job doesn't clash with your study time, things get a little interesting as you go into year 12.

Is it higher or lower now?

I hope it isn't higher, I'm only about 167/168cm as it is.

I hope they increase the height limit ever so slightly, would make life a lot easier for me. I'm touch and go on the sitting height.... :ooh:

Yeah fingers crossed blackbird! Keep me posted on how things are going.

Cheers

Height requirements

gday guys and gals,

I recently completed my medical on assesment day, and the doc told me that they were going to reduce the sitting height standard, because they were finding that a person of the max. height standard, could not properly fit in one of the training aircraft with the helmuts on (cant remeber which aircraft). This was leading to injuries when the pilot was thrown around in the cockpit. I didnt actually find out what the reduction in the standard was goin to be though. Just happy that i fit!

Dean

Don't know the correct answer, but I'd like to see 'predatory female' and 'onya Backbitch' meet!:}

cheers,

-John