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Pilot Adam 25th Nov 2009 07:02

RAAF YOU Session aptitude test
 
Hey, for those who have done the YOU session aptitude test before, will I be faced with questions regarding speed calc, time calc, distance calc and fuel consumption? If these are on the test how many variables do they throw into it?

AlexanderB 25th Nov 2009 07:03

I've had a shot at a model plane, pretty fun.

You really should try gliding, its great fun. I recently went to a XC gliding comp. in a two seater, a five hour flight with me taking four of those in command. Theres not much else like thermalling in lift the width of an oval with 10 other gliders within 200m of you. You really do get a sore neck.


"Followed by doing this whilst also doing maths equations."
What sort of equations?...

I'm pretty much right for the instrument interpretation tests and speed distance time and fuel consumption type things but what other kinds of questions would I be up for?, Trig?

I've had a look about on the net for the ADF aviator game but can't really find much. Any ideas?

Cheers,

"Remember the 5 P's, (Prior Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance)"

mhale71 25th Nov 2009 08:07

Alex, the maths equations come in 2 parts, the first you will see will be a bunch of multiple choice answers, where the essence of a win is to do it quickly.
its been over a year since i took the test, but the one question i do remember from that is the one i had a brain-fart on.

2 airports, 500 miles/nm/ks/units whatever away,
Plane leaves airport a heading for B at 360 mph/kts/kmh/units
plane leaves airport b heading for a at 240 mph/kts/kmh/units

when and where will they meet.

Then, while youre doing the stick excersize, you will have one where you are given two random numbers that you have to do something with, Such as multiply them and then deduct the difference between them from the total, you have something like 5 seconds to select an answer per question, while balancing the little circle inside the big circle wiht a joystick.
hmm.. its easier then it sounds.

They sent me a CD for adf aviator when i put pilot in my application form, its about a trillion megabytes and has a beutiful 3d environment with 3 missions, 1 in a tiger, 1 in a hornet, and 1 in a seahawk, Itd be fun if we could get a "post your best scores" thing going on here, it is a fun game.
try a google search or maybe isohunt, i found this with google FAQ | Defence Jobs looks like you can get it posted to you. if worst comes to worse i can try and find the disk [head>desk] and upload it.

MudRat_02 25th Nov 2009 11:34

AlexanderB, the questions that are fired at you in that segment are basic maths that won't stray far from your times tables, however you will be required to 'process' these answers in certain ways and submit an aswer based on this.

In summary you will be required to perform a fine manual task with a flightstick, whilst you have to not only solve a question but also think on your feet. Its not as daunting as it sounds and if you make sure you brush up on your mental arithmetic, which is a given considering the nature of the job, and perhaps spend a bit of time on a flight sim you'll be as prepared as you can be.

Slezy9 25th Nov 2009 12:04


"Remember the 5 P's, (Prior Preparation Prevents Piss Poor Performance)"
I hope you can count beyond 5! It looks like there is 6 there.

layman 25th Nov 2009 21:49

7 Ps?
 
proper prior preparation prevents piss-poor performance

Cougar 26th Nov 2009 03:02

Just don't quote the 7P's in mil writing. Yes, seen it done and it went very badly for the poor soul...

AlexanderB 26th Nov 2009 07:40

Thanks for the all the advice, I'll remember if I ever quote something to check it first. Just a bit embassasing.

I was just wondering, why does the DefenceJobs website display pilot as a priority job? I was under the impression that there's more than enough applicants in the waiting pools, is the demand for pilots really that high or are they just setting themselves up so as to pick the best of a larger group. Are they going for a higher quantity or quality? Any ideas on this one?

The next two weeks are going to be pretty hectic for me, I've got my testing right in the middle of my Semester 2 exams, this is gonna be fun.

ryano 26th Nov 2009 08:17

Pilot Priority
 
The ADF is always looking for high quality applicants to fill pilot positions and so it will always be advertised as "priority". Even though supply and demand of applicants will vary over time, in order to ensure quality at all times, you always have to look for it. If you try an "off and on" approach, and try to match it with future needs, you end up worse off. You'll notice other positions in the ADF that require quality applicants will also be advertised as priority - virtually all the time, for the same reasons. Remember, there's always jobs going - sometimes more and sometimes less.

PS: The same applies to applicants as well - don't try and time your application!! Apply when you feel you're the best you can be and don't worry about the rest!!

JayD 7th Dec 2009 08:17

Hey there I am new to all this and just wanted to know whether anyone is going to be on Flight Screening on the 16th of January??
I had a call from Tamworth today and they are sending out some information soon. Is there any extra stuff I can do to stand out at Tamworth? I plan on reading this entire thread, additional reading and also some flying lessons.
Thanks guys this forum is great!!
Just Pm me or post here if you also got an offer for the 16th of Jan.

ryano 7th Dec 2009 21:57

Ah this thread is revived!
JayD well done on getting to FSP, especially the second one of the year. Hopefully your instructors had a good Christmas holiday - but I don't think taking a bag of candy-canes down would help you out. Do as you said; read this thread, go for a lesson or two (if you want) and prepare yourself for a fun and full-on two weeks. Any questions, post them here.
Cheers
PS: How have some of the other guys who have recently posted on here gone with all their testing??

MudRat_02 8th Dec 2009 01:21

Assessment day tomorrow! I feel prepared for it and I've put some work in so I should be ok. Hopefully it will run smooth and I'll earn my place on one of the January FSP courses too :ok:

LtDan 8th Dec 2009 01:42

To give you an idea of the time frame some can expect:

1. Applied for Pilot position in the ADF early 2008
2. Did Flight Screening in March 2009
3. Starting BFTS in Feb 2010

If you're looking at skills to develop, start working on your patience :)

Dan

Trojan1981 8th Dec 2009 03:21


You'll notice other positions in the ADF that require quality applicants will also be advertised as priority
Yeah, Like Steward:}

Advertised as prority

from the website:
An exciting workplace and fantastic pay make this role in all aspects of food and beverage service a rewarding one. Training provided.

Sorry, I couldn't resist. Good luck all.


I'll get my coat....

MudRat_02 8th Dec 2009 03:54


To give you an idea of the time frame some can expect:

1. Applied for Pilot position in the ADF early 2008
2. Did Flight Screening in March 2009
3. Starting BFTS in Feb 2010

If you're looking at skills to develop, start working on your patience http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/sr...lies/smile.gif

Dan
Patience! Now there's a virtue I can surely understand. Started my application in November 2005, and due to some complications I am now finally at assessment day. Nothing wrong with a touch of optimism though :ok:

From what I can gather, there doesn't seem to be a 'typical' case as far as waiting goes.

LtDan 8th Dec 2009 04:34

Wow mate, that's probably one of the worser cases i've heard.

Well goodluck from now on.

AlexanderB 8th Dec 2009 07:03

Pilot Specific Testing today, success. I'm pretty sure I aced the instrument and spatial testing but I will admit that the second maths test is pretty tricky.

Looks like I'm up for the Interviews sometime early next year.

Thanks to all those who helped, great advice.

MudRat_02 9th Dec 2009 21:06

Finished assessment day yesterday. It was a huge day, got there at 0900 and left at 1700, most of which was spent sitting in the waiting room watching DFR videos! Anyway, in the end it was all worth it - I got my recommendation for pilot and OSB, so my file is off to PSA. They suggested that it would not be unlikely that I'd get a spot on one of the January courses, however at the end of the day they aren't PSA so I'll just have to keep my prep up and wait for the call.

Kitchen_bench 9th Dec 2009 21:26

Would like to congratulate Mudrat, I've followed your journey through this forum and a few other forums. Amazed with your determination amongst the let downs.

Blackbird14 9th Dec 2009 23:33

Well done Mudrat! I too, am still in the process of a long and arduous application! It's always nice to hear of people getting through. :)


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