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Wait, it gets worse!!! I believe the grass on the airfield was not the regulation 1 inch (or 25.4mm for our European friends) and nobody had polished the runway!
It was the most awful shade of dull grey.
Disgraceful display of standards. How on earth are we going to impress Joe public by having such sloppy standards? I really think the Station Commander ought to be taken out and shot at dawn.
And don't get me started on the aircraft! I'm sure I saw some with smokey marks all over them, fingerprints on the canopy, dull paintwork, blah blah blah!!! Does nobody possses TurtleWax these days? And what's with all these smoke trails from vortex generators and the like, leaving random assymetric patterns all over the sky? It's just not on old chap.
I didn't join the Air Force to allow all this sloppiness to spoil my image. The public deserves better what. Die with dignity I say. Ride into battle with all buttons gleaming and a lovely pair of shiny shoes - that'll show those cretinous foreign johnnies!!!
Toodle pip what what!!
It was the most awful shade of dull grey.Disgraceful display of standards. How on earth are we going to impress Joe public by having such sloppy standards? I really think the Station Commander ought to be taken out and shot at dawn.
And don't get me started on the aircraft! I'm sure I saw some with smokey marks all over them, fingerprints on the canopy, dull paintwork, blah blah blah!!! Does nobody possses TurtleWax these days? And what's with all these smoke trails from vortex generators and the like, leaving random assymetric patterns all over the sky? It's just not on old chap.
I didn't join the Air Force to allow all this sloppiness to spoil my image. The public deserves better what. Die with dignity I say. Ride into battle with all buttons gleaming and a lovely pair of shiny shoes - that'll show those cretinous foreign johnnies!!!
Toodle pip what what!!
Champagne anyone...?
Flying Suits at air shows eh?
Last one I can remember I left wearing a dayglo orange dutch SAR flying suit.... fairly confident that wasn't what I was wearing at the start of the party...
Come to think of it, that hadn't been ironed either. I must've looked a state......what with that and the several pints of beer I'd thrown over myself. I shall pen a letter of complaint to the Dutch MoD forthwith.
Anyway, I'm still mourning the loss of the turn-ups on the No1 trousers and the bottom brass button on the No1 Jacket.....
Standards etc etc! Bahhhhhhhh.
Livid of Lyneham.
Last one I can remember I left wearing a dayglo orange dutch SAR flying suit.... fairly confident that wasn't what I was wearing at the start of the party...
Come to think of it, that hadn't been ironed either. I must've looked a state......what with that and the several pints of beer I'd thrown over myself. I shall pen a letter of complaint to the Dutch MoD forthwith.
Anyway, I'm still mourning the loss of the turn-ups on the No1 trousers and the bottom brass button on the No1 Jacket.....
Standards etc etc! Bahhhhhhhh.
Livid of Lyneham.
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The original post has pros and cons, but what hacks me off is the reaction of some of you lot. I make people wear issue kit to fly. On the ground at air shows, we MUST set an example of sorts. The public expect you to look professional. Please...... do not say that people are trying to appear 'normal' to the public. Let's be honest guys, you wear Oakleys and roll the sleeves up to meet an image, an elite one at that. YOU LOVE THE ATTENTION! That is ok, but hands in pockets and scruffy suits is not on.
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Aircrew in flying suits ehh!!!!!
Who'd have believed it!!!?
Next you will be wanting to revive the QR for underpant inspections of the troops!!!
I'd like to see Her Majesty's finest C-17 "Mr Whippies" walking round with their hands in their pockets...... that would be a fete!
Ya boo, sucks to you - Fritzy!
Who'd have believed it!!!?
Next you will be wanting to revive the QR for underpant inspections of the troops!!!
I'd like to see Her Majesty's finest C-17 "Mr Whippies" walking round with their hands in their pockets...... that would be a fete!
Ya boo, sucks to you - Fritzy!
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"" Please...... do not say that people are trying to appear 'normal' to the public. Let's be honest guys, you wear Oakleys and roll the sleeves up to meet an image...""
Blo0dy oath I wear oakley's cause they look better; lets face it, a gimp mask would look better than the RAF Issue specs. Any self respecting young man/women wouldn't be caught dead in them, let alone alive!!! As for sleeves up, it's called COMFORTABLE. I fully concur that hands in pockets look scruffy, but lets face it, as long as the RAF flying suits have hip pockets, people will play pocket billiards. Wanna look better in flying wear?? Buy American flying suits, which are probably half the price, not designed by comittee, even (God forbid) fireproof. They don't have useless velcro which leaves the pocket flaps sticking out all over the place, and there aren't 24 different shades of green. It's fine to slate another mil, but not until ours better!Perhaps we should concentrate on being the best, and a little less time on trying to look the best.At the mo, it's neither!
Blo0dy oath I wear oakley's cause they look better; lets face it, a gimp mask would look better than the RAF Issue specs. Any self respecting young man/women wouldn't be caught dead in them, let alone alive!!! As for sleeves up, it's called COMFORTABLE. I fully concur that hands in pockets look scruffy, but lets face it, as long as the RAF flying suits have hip pockets, people will play pocket billiards. Wanna look better in flying wear?? Buy American flying suits, which are probably half the price, not designed by comittee, even (God forbid) fireproof. They don't have useless velcro which leaves the pocket flaps sticking out all over the place, and there aren't 24 different shades of green. It's fine to slate another mil, but not until ours better!Perhaps we should concentrate on being the best, and a little less time on trying to look the best.At the mo, it's neither!
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And yes, you must be psychic - SU26 did the first ribbon cut at the Old Buckenham display on Sunday
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Flyboy 007,
I whole-heartedly agree with you on the subject of flying suits. I went into stores to pick up my new flying suit and guess what? It's more uncomfortable and they have manged to position the pen holder so they dig into your arm whilst you are flying. Once again a magnificant performance from our "smart" procurement teams. You would have thought they would have tried the kit out first! I say buy American, wear raybans/oakleys and hopefully when the heirachy finally gets annoyed with us "gash" aircrew they will finally buy something worthy of wearing. Until then, let's continue to look how the kit actually performs: Pathetically.
I whole-heartedly agree with you on the subject of flying suits. I went into stores to pick up my new flying suit and guess what? It's more uncomfortable and they have manged to position the pen holder so they dig into your arm whilst you are flying. Once again a magnificant performance from our "smart" procurement teams. You would have thought they would have tried the kit out first! I say buy American, wear raybans/oakleys and hopefully when the heirachy finally gets annoyed with us "gash" aircrew they will finally buy something worthy of wearing. Until then, let's continue to look how the kit actually performs: Pathetically.
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Maybe you might ask to be on the voting panel next year then? But as someone else said on this thread until you're senior enough to make decisions you'll just have to live with those made by others.
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I love this thread. I'm sure the public would be delighted to be reassured to know that the military isn't full of petty, stuffy old farts obsessed with minutia that nobody else gives two hoots about which absolutely refutes the stereotype joe public has of the great british military, especially officers.
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F-18 was pretty awesome, but I have to say, I’m not sure if it was the best… I personally think the best display of the show was the two navy Lynx. What they did with those helicopters is very impressive…. Anyone agree?
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In my day (and I used to hate that starter as much as you) we flew as hard, drank as hard, womanised as well, had similar inferior kit, moaned about the same issues, and sometimes got in the s**t. We also made the most of what we had - and (at great Meldrew risk again) took a general pride in things. And yes, we also envied the US and their flying kit. Sure, there was a small minority that looked like a tub of turds and revelled in whinging, whining, and describing the boring majority as old farts.
I guess then, from most of the foregoing threads, that not a lot has changed -----------
I guess then, from most of the foregoing threads, that not a lot has changed -----------
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Well you lot certainly don’t come across as professional aircrew. You come across as whinging pretentious children.
The impression of the RAF sinks to new lows with this crap. You joined an armed force representing this country not a civvy company. There are rules to follow. If it doesn’t suit you leave.
Whinging like this does nothing for your public image. You just lost the support of (at least) one voter here.
Nothing but little boys with big toys.
The impression of the RAF sinks to new lows with this crap. You joined an armed force representing this country not a civvy company. There are rules to follow. If it doesn’t suit you leave.
Whinging like this does nothing for your public image. You just lost the support of (at least) one voter here.
Nothing but little boys with big toys.
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What, the prize that everybody I've spoken to has said "You must be kidding" to? Not met anybody who agreed with that decision - the F-18 driver deserved it by a mile.