IOT for Airmen Aircrew.....
Join Date: Jan 2001
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Hey Darkside et al. Lets look at this from an informed point of view.
As a failed Rodney cadet I subsequently passed AAITC. OCTU (age showing!) and IOT were not as physically intense as the ITC but were far longer, involving more mental determination and stamina. Sure some other ex-O Cadets failed ITC as well, but probably for the same character weaknesses that had seen them chopped at the 'Tech. I had a 2 year break between courses which I suspect stood me in far better stead for passing the ITC.
A quick survey of exAA now serving in trade as Officers amply demonstrates that a competent SNCO selected for commissioning often does not make a good Officer. Also OASC seem to be past masters at selecting complete t*****s for commissioning who continue to be inadequate with a lot more authority.
In the end it is difficult to explain why a time-promoted MACR does not require any training to become an Officer whilst a merit-promoted FS like yourself, Darkside, or yours' truly apparently need 6 months correction!
It all falls within the remit of our wonderful upper managemant, so don't standby for any logic or improvements in this area!
See you on the Sqn, mate, and we can have another whinge about not even being able to get our Warrants!!
As a failed Rodney cadet I subsequently passed AAITC. OCTU (age showing!) and IOT were not as physically intense as the ITC but were far longer, involving more mental determination and stamina. Sure some other ex-O Cadets failed ITC as well, but probably for the same character weaknesses that had seen them chopped at the 'Tech. I had a 2 year break between courses which I suspect stood me in far better stead for passing the ITC.
A quick survey of exAA now serving in trade as Officers amply demonstrates that a competent SNCO selected for commissioning often does not make a good Officer. Also OASC seem to be past masters at selecting complete t*****s for commissioning who continue to be inadequate with a lot more authority.
In the end it is difficult to explain why a time-promoted MACR does not require any training to become an Officer whilst a merit-promoted FS like yourself, Darkside, or yours' truly apparently need 6 months correction!
It all falls within the remit of our wonderful upper managemant, so don't standby for any logic or improvements in this area!
See you on the Sqn, mate, and we can have another whinge about not even being able to get our Warrants!!
Join Date: Oct 2002
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A good point, but one slightly off the thread that I was aiming for.
A poor NCO I think will still make a poor Officer, regardless of length of IOT.
The one Officer we do have that did the quick WO course was a good guy before he went, and has remained so. Can't think of any good NCO's that did the long course that have turned out bad Officers, and likewise can't think of any bad NCO's that have become good Officers after the long course!!
My whole point of at the beginning of this topic was do AA have to do the WHOLE IOT, or could we not do the bits that we are lacking in. All of us have carried pine poles (and proper pine poles!!!) up and down the Dales and Otterburn, built tripods to get that radioactive drum from the centre of that white circle, have given briefs, used SMEAC and all the other bits and pieces that make up AAITC. Together with our general Service knowledge and experience surely this must count for something. Why not do a tailored course that would concentrate on all the aspects we need?
I know I'll not change the system, but just was interested in different views.
See you on the Sqn mate, and I'll have a beer!
A poor NCO I think will still make a poor Officer, regardless of length of IOT.
The one Officer we do have that did the quick WO course was a good guy before he went, and has remained so. Can't think of any good NCO's that did the long course that have turned out bad Officers, and likewise can't think of any bad NCO's that have become good Officers after the long course!!
My whole point of at the beginning of this topic was do AA have to do the WHOLE IOT, or could we not do the bits that we are lacking in. All of us have carried pine poles (and proper pine poles!!!) up and down the Dales and Otterburn, built tripods to get that radioactive drum from the centre of that white circle, have given briefs, used SMEAC and all the other bits and pieces that make up AAITC. Together with our general Service knowledge and experience surely this must count for something. Why not do a tailored course that would concentrate on all the aspects we need?
I know I'll not change the system, but just was interested in different views.
See you on the Sqn mate, and I'll have a beer!
