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Ok, I've had enough. As a few on here already know I'm all for promoting the RAF and the Aircrew branches. However I’m fed up of the Military forum being cluttered up with wannabe questions. Is there not a forum for wannabe's? Ladies and gentleman please use that forum. That aside some of the dull stupid questions that are asked are beyond the wit of man. The careers office will give ages and conditions for entry into the aircrew world. The internet is littered with IQ testing questions and there's even a web site on OASC selection. Come on use your brains, think on your feet a little don't take the easy way out and post a dumb question on this forum ... please.
I will take constructive criticism on this matter, and yet again I call for this forum to be made private please.
I will take constructive criticism on this matter, and yet again I call for this forum to be made private please.
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Totally agree take this forum private, this forum has no need or desire for contributions from the private sector or from ex services staff. Presumably "Rude C'man" you will contact Danny and take over the role of vetting forum members by payroll number etc..
If you do this then I can save about half an hour a day looking in' for Dininig in type stories.
If you do this then I can save about half an hour a day looking in' for Dininig in type stories.
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While you have a point about some of the questions that appear on the Mil Forum, which I hasten to add are often removed to that forum, it remains the right of a wannabe if he has a specific Mil question to ask it on this forum.
Where else would he have that opportunity on PPRuNe? What other forum?
As I always advocate, frequently, PPRuNe is unique in that it has some incredible talent aboard, and that talent should be, and is, available to those who wish to ask for it from the ground up, in every department of flying. If someone doesn't wish to assist a wannabe that is a matter for them, but I hope they try to remember when they needed questions answered. And NO, I cannot agree that the internet is alive with the answers either, you cannot ask a live question - THAT people is the difference.
I take a keen interest in the Mil Forum although it is not moderated. I support it as an ex-Mil, and I vehmently support the Chinook campaign.
Just give a bit of thought to the questions wannabes ask and help them. They are not ALL daft!
Oh, one more thing. I think you can take it as read that this forum will not go private. Danny and the modertaors have enough to do already.
Where else would he have that opportunity on PPRuNe? What other forum?
As I always advocate, frequently, PPRuNe is unique in that it has some incredible talent aboard, and that talent should be, and is, available to those who wish to ask for it from the ground up, in every department of flying. If someone doesn't wish to assist a wannabe that is a matter for them, but I hope they try to remember when they needed questions answered. And NO, I cannot agree that the internet is alive with the answers either, you cannot ask a live question - THAT people is the difference.
I take a keen interest in the Mil Forum although it is not moderated. I support it as an ex-Mil, and I vehmently support the Chinook campaign.
Just give a bit of thought to the questions wannabes ask and help them. They are not ALL daft!
Oh, one more thing. I think you can take it as read that this forum will not go private. Danny and the modertaors have enough to do already.
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As Mil but Blunty engineer, I am probably (okay definitely!) on the wrong side of the fence to give an unbiased view as to whether this should be a closed forum to Mil Aircrew! Besides, this is argued every few months anyway. For the record though, this being a forum entitled 'Military Aircrew', I could hardly object if it was closed... 
To the point of wannabees though, the RAF might seem a cliquey slightly arrogant organisation to outsiders (It did to me until I joined and became part of that!). Banning wannabee postings doesn't really help the cause, even though I know this is not a recruiting site. However, PPrune is one of the only places guys with no mil contacts can get the no BS version of events. Most of the wannabees who do post (with a few exceptions!) are the more astute, self-reliant types who surely should be encouraged, not slated?
It might help though if it was possible to have a dedicated thread on the Mil forum 'Wannabees Post Here', that could be made to stay somewhere near the top...
To the point of wannabees though, the RAF might seem a cliquey slightly arrogant organisation to outsiders (It did to me until I joined and became part of that!). Banning wannabee postings doesn't really help the cause, even though I know this is not a recruiting site. However, PPrune is one of the only places guys with no mil contacts can get the no BS version of events. Most of the wannabees who do post (with a few exceptions!) are the more astute, self-reliant types who surely should be encouraged, not slated?
It might help though if it was possible to have a dedicated thread on the Mil forum 'Wannabees Post Here', that could be made to stay somewhere near the top...
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Excellent suggestion rude-sounding name bloke..
So what about it Pprune Pop/McD/Blue Eagle?
Wannabee Sticky at the top, and a duty mentor for the people who'd like to find out more about winged service in the Light/Dark Blue or AAC.
No, the Internet is not alive with information that people need, but a simple search within this forum, would have answered a lot of the more bone questions
It would also be useful if someone from OASC or that ilk, could be found to give up some of his time to help on that sticky, as yes, it is important for recruitment....
So what about it Pprune Pop/McD/Blue Eagle?
Wannabee Sticky at the top, and a duty mentor for the people who'd like to find out more about winged service in the Light/Dark Blue or AAC.
No, the Internet is not alive with information that people need, but a simple search within this forum, would have answered a lot of the more bone questions
It would also be useful if someone from OASC or that ilk, could be found to give up some of his time to help on that sticky, as yes, it is important for recruitment....
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I personally am with rude on this one!
A shining example posted on this forum Cranwell........ again
Who on here wants to know about some crummy INTO application, **** off mate and go elsewhere, leave the serious aviation matters to those that care
A shining example posted on this forum Cranwell........ again
Who on here wants to know about some crummy INTO application, **** off mate and go elsewhere, leave the serious aviation matters to those that care
Ramp Chimp and Rude one, I refer you to my reply on Cranwell.....Again. You are doing a good job at giving all those AAC, FAA and FJ filth lot the ammunition about crewmen that I know most crewmen don't deserve. As I said......'I Know You, I do'!
I agree that people should not waste the valuable time of our military aviators, but there appears to be nowhere else to turn for wannabes who want to ask specific questions and not the usual 'OASC Help?' threads. The 'Wannabes' forum moderator has said that it is only for civil wannabes and the 'Questions' forum seems to be the same. Perhaps there could be a military wannabes forum? Just an idea 
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Fer Chrissake folks. There IS nowhere else for the military wannabes to ask their questions. Yes - some of the questions are crass, but they soon get the massage when they are flamed. It, however, is definitely worth keeping the place open for those who are bright and sensible so that they can get "horse's mouth" answers that they can't - genuinely - get elsewhere. Put up with the dross so that we can "trap" the really worthwhile nuggets that we need. And never forget that you once asked bleedin' stupid questions - even if you don't remember doing so. Ask your first instructor!!! Also remember that if the question is stupid, then you don't have to grace it with a response. Try also to remember that some of these kids are really young and don't know what to do, what to ask or where to go! When we kick them in the crotch we turn off what could potentially be just what we need in the future when they mature. Sorry if this sounds patronising - it's not meant to be but ---- have a heart!!!!!
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I would have done if I had had the opportunity in the dark past. And what makes YOU think that you should be the guardian of serious aviation matters, and shut others out? Did someone on PPRuNe give you the OK?
Your post here is as bad as your post on the Cranwell thread. What is your problem?
When you were a little boy, which doesn't seem to be that long ago, didn't you ask a lot of questions. Didn't you NEED to know the answers? How did you learn? Did you do it all by yourself. Of course you didn't. You asked just as we all did.
So just get of the backs of wannabes. They have as much right on PPRuNe as you do. Stop knocking them! You were one once!
I find it hard to understand why some people on PPRuNe seem to feel that they have a divine right to dictate terms on here. You don't mate. You are equal to everyone else. Better get used to it.
Who on here wants to know about some crummy INTO application, **** off mate and go elsewhere, leave the serious aviation matters to those that care
Your post here is as bad as your post on the Cranwell thread. What is your problem?
When you were a little boy, which doesn't seem to be that long ago, didn't you ask a lot of questions. Didn't you NEED to know the answers? How did you learn? Did you do it all by yourself. Of course you didn't. You asked just as we all did.
So just get of the backs of wannabes. They have as much right on PPRuNe as you do. Stop knocking them! You were one once!
I find it hard to understand why some people on PPRuNe seem to feel that they have a divine right to dictate terms on here. You don't mate. You are equal to everyone else. Better get used to it.
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why don't we have a military aircrew wannabees area
then the old and the wise could drop in with nuggets when they wanted. It would operate pretty much as the main wannabees forum does. Nobody seems to ask mil qns on that
then the old and the wise could drop in with nuggets when they wanted. It would operate pretty much as the main wannabees forum does. Nobody seems to ask mil qns on that
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Ok, it's now getting out of hand again; there must have been a lot of US aircraft today around the world.
Yes I agree we do need to help those people who want to join our ranks, so why not have a Mil Wannabe forum?
All I'm asking for is a separate forum for Mil wannabe's and or those wannabe's get off their backsides and contact RAF stations direct to see if they run a mentor /visitor program as they do here and other flying stations.
There is no better advice than that given face to face, not through some faceless knick name on a open forum. The CIO can answer the majority of the 'daft' questions we see here on this forum and I have no gripe with those that are not so ill thought of and posted here.
OTIS, ring your local CIO they will inform you of the min requirement for NCO Aircrew.
Any way off to fail another exam in the hope that I will forever remain part of the fastest developing aircrew branches in the RAF.
I wonder, will it be A400 or FLA next maybe C17? Really, we are spoilt for choice!
Edited due to too much Shiraz last night
Yes I agree we do need to help those people who want to join our ranks, so why not have a Mil Wannabe forum?
All I'm asking for is a separate forum for Mil wannabe's and or those wannabe's get off their backsides and contact RAF stations direct to see if they run a mentor /visitor program as they do here and other flying stations.
There is no better advice than that given face to face, not through some faceless knick name on a open forum. The CIO can answer the majority of the 'daft' questions we see here on this forum and I have no gripe with those that are not so ill thought of and posted here.
OTIS, ring your local CIO they will inform you of the min requirement for NCO Aircrew.
Any way off to fail another exam in the hope that I will forever remain part of the fastest developing aircrew branches in the RAF.
I wonder, will it be A400 or FLA next maybe C17? Really, we are spoilt for choice!
Edited due to too much Shiraz last night
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Rude C'man i think that you are being a little harsh. Granted there are some really bone questions asked and yes the constant repetition of posts is thoroughly annoying. The fact remains that this forum is excellent for current affairs and really good for getting the 'horses mouth' view on issues.
I think that a mil wannabe's forum would be good, but i also think that making this forum private would not be a good move. It is just that posts such as 'Cranwell...again' are examples of people joining the military wanting the 'in side' view, without having to ask a careers officer and worry about whether he will judge you for asking a stupid question. Make a forum for the bone questions, but don't exclude us mere motals from this forum...thanks
I think that a mil wannabe's forum would be good, but i also think that making this forum private would not be a good move. It is just that posts such as 'Cranwell...again' are examples of people joining the military wanting the 'in side' view, without having to ask a careers officer and worry about whether he will judge you for asking a stupid question. Make a forum for the bone questions, but don't exclude us mere motals from this forum...thanks
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R'c......top wind up mate...keep em coming
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
PS forget those other sacks of pooh and get yourself on the J mate............toptastic fun
all spelling mistakes are "df" alcohol induced
PS forget those other sacks of pooh and get yourself on the J mate............toptastic fun
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T Bird , I don't think this forum is excellent for current affairs , most of the time it's a load of faceless knick names spreading gossip.
Now before you all start, yes there are some very worthwhile and infomative threads ie, Chinook and DHE etc etc however, I stand by opinion that too many questions are asked on here, that could be answered elsewhere. As stated before there are web sites and visit days and PRO that could be sought out by wananbe's first.
I believe that this mil forum would benefit from a separate wannabe mil forum how about it Danny?....
Any way off to fail another exam so i can go and be Operational in yet another conflict Blair is renting us out to .... see ya in the tent Trucky mates ha ha
Now before you all start, yes there are some very worthwhile and infomative threads ie, Chinook and DHE etc etc however, I stand by opinion that too many questions are asked on here, that could be answered elsewhere. As stated before there are web sites and visit days and PRO that could be sought out by wananbe's first.
I believe that this mil forum would benefit from a separate wannabe mil forum how about it Danny?....
Any way off to fail another exam so i can go and be Operational in yet another conflict Blair is renting us out to .... see ya in the tent Trucky mates ha ha
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Come off it Rude C Man
You seem to forget that a lot of those civv's were flying when you were still in nappy's. They are just as entitled to post or look on the Mil Pages as you are.
You seem to forget that a lot of those civv's were flying when you were still in nappy's. They are just as entitled to post or look on the Mil Pages as you are.
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WHINGE, WHINGE BLIMMIN WHINGE!!!!
Too much time on the net and not enough of a life, have we? Scared that civvies might be interested in what we do and might want to know more? Afraid of building up credibility for your service instead of perhaps being regarded as spongers of the state? Why don't you try to be friendly to them as you never really know who it is asking, or were you born with a brevet up your backside and dont remember yourself in their position?
Personally, I don't mind the stupid questions as I do remember when I was in that position, with no internet or site to ask the people in the job your burning questions. I have had a few e mail me direct as they have feared that they would be flamed alive for posting in this forum due to the few master race who feel that they don't belong. I suspect they don't get the answers on the wannabes forum because we dont surf the wannabes enough - what makes you think we would with a seperate mil forum?
Do you think I enjoy reading about which heavy lift jet or which desert hotel is the best or who doesn't get paid enough but thinks they should or who wants to go outside because they spend too much time whinging? I blimmen don't so I don't click on the topic.
If you dont like the topic, dont ferkin read it.
End transmission, breathe out, reach for The Macallan.
Personally, I don't mind the stupid questions as I do remember when I was in that position, with no internet or site to ask the people in the job your burning questions. I have had a few e mail me direct as they have feared that they would be flamed alive for posting in this forum due to the few master race who feel that they don't belong. I suspect they don't get the answers on the wannabes forum because we dont surf the wannabes enough - what makes you think we would with a seperate mil forum?
Do you think I enjoy reading about which heavy lift jet or which desert hotel is the best or who doesn't get paid enough but thinks they should or who wants to go outside because they spend too much time whinging? I blimmen don't so I don't click on the topic.
If you dont like the topic, dont ferkin read it.
End transmission, breathe out, reach for The Macallan.