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Old 5th Nov 2023, 18:59
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Could be some Nukes are aboard an of course the likelihood of those being used is extremely remote to the level of total improbability.
Converting them to SSGN was covered under the SALT treaties and the last BGM-109A nuclear tomahawk were retired in 2013.
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A quiet day in the region - Blinken flies from Cyprus to Iraq then onward to Turkey and there are now carrier air wings at either end of the Suez with air tanker support out of Crete. But why would USCENTCOM publish this:


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Was it equipped for delivering SEALS and related covert underwater operations using drones, etc?

One would hope there was a calculated reason for such a press release otherwise there should be some press weenie hanging from a yard arm somewhere.
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Was it equipped for delivering SEALS and related covert underwater operations using drones, etc?

One would hope there was a calculated reason for such a press release otherwise there should be some press weenie hanging from a yard arm somewhere.
Good for morale ....... mine included.

The situation has gone from "might be there" to "certainly is there, suck on that!"
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Jordan's air force airdropped "urgent medical aid" to a Jordanian field hospital in Gaza the country's King Abdullah announced early Monday on X, formerly Twitter..

An Israeli official told Axios the Jordanian air drop was conducted in coordination with Israel's military.

Jordan's military said in a statement that the medical supplies were dropped via parachutes from a Jordanian Air Force plane.

Our fearless air force personnel air-dropped at midnight urgent medical aid to the Jordanian field hospital in Gaza. This is our duty to aid our brothers and sisters injured in the war on Gaza. We will always be there for our Palestinian brethren.


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Good for morale ....... mine included.

The situation has gone from "might be there" to "certainly is there, suck on that!"
Not good for my morale. Escalating tensions in a region I’ve spent more than half of my 38 years in the Service is never a good thing.
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In Turkey, a crowd of pro-Palestinian demonstrators gathered near the Turkish-U.S. Incirlik Air Base: they tried to break into its territory.

Police used tear gas and water cannons to disperse the protesters.

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Jordan's air force airdropped "urgent medical aid" to a Jordanian field hospital in Gaza the country's King Abdullah announced early Monday on X, formerly Twitter..

An Israeli official told Axios the Jordanian air drop was conducted in coordination with Israel's military.

Jordan's military said in a statement that the medical supplies were dropped via parachutes from a Jordanian Air Force plane.



Our fearless air force personnel air-dropped at midnight urgent medical aid to the Jordanian field hospital in Gaza. This is our duty to aid our brothers and sisters injured in the war on Gaza. We will always be there for our Palestinian brethren.

Interested to hear why you put inverted commas over the urgent medical aid. Have your Twitter searches uncovered anything that suggests otherwise?

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The inverted commas are from the original Axios report because they are quoting King Abdullah - I don’t believe the6 have any other significance or that the aid dropped was as specified.
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The inverted commas are from the original Axios report because they are quoting King Abdullah - I don’t believe the6 have any other significance or that the aid dropped was as specified.
I agree. I don't have any concerns Jordan might be supplying Arms to them. In case of Lebanon I might have some serious question marks but Jordan or Egypt (or even Saudi Arabia) not really. They do something to support the Gazan's publicly but without any military interference. They are not interested in fuelling this catastrophy - unlike some other not so direct neighbours.

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As an aside, I am more 8nterested in other unreported aspects of the story.

Firstly, I was unaware the Jordanians have a field hospital in Gaza - that must present problems for the IAF in their operations.

Secondly, I see the flight was at night. Presumably due to the risk of ground fire from those who might think it was Israeli - I presume the IAF would have provided an escort with EW and flares just in case.

Lastly, it would interesting to know how they cleared and marked a DZ for the drop and how and and what height it was performed.
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
Good for morale ....... mine included.

The situation has gone from "might be there" to "certainly is there, suck on that!"
Perhaps more like 'This is what we are telling you we have here - just think what we're not telling you is here too'
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"Could that be a grey with red band colour code."

expensive way of delivering teargas .............................
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Original IDF photo with actual weapons.

The disinformation with videos from previous conflicts, photoshopping and deep fakes now outnumber the genuine. Take any photo not from a known source with extreme scepticism….

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And what does a 'Grey / blue band' do?
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In relation to the airdrop the source was King Abdullah….

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And what does a 'Grey / blue band' do?
Originally Posted by sfm818
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Don't know that one. Question for the Plumbers.

The second photo was for comparison. It is hard to verify provenance of a photo which was apparently redacted. As mentioned, one must take care to filter out disinformation. Best managed from a reliable source. That includes whether Israel arranged a safe corridor into a war zone for an airdrop at midnight, or the payload was delivered to El Arish. In relation to the Longbow, that source was the IDF.
Or you could be a model builder
https://cs.finescale.com/fsm/tools_t.../t/157508.aspx

Assuming the ordnance is US in origin
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It would be a remarkable reversal of policy if a way could be found to deconflict airspace necessary for Jordan to conduct an airdrop in darkness.
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I would assume, it will only be necessary to ensure alignment with IDF. Don't think there will be much other flights over Israel or Gaza at Night currently. I wouldn't expect it to be too complicated if Israel is willing/made willing. For Israel it is just one aircraft more to deconflict. And a huge radar blip for that matter.
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expensive way of delivering teargas .............................
One could use it in an attempt to clear out above-ground, human shield civilians before hitting the same location with a penetrating munition targeting an underground complex/tunnel system, demonstrating an effort to limit civilian casualties.

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