Gaza Air War
I have been reading the Gaza thread on Jetblast with interest but I figured if ever there was a use for a military aviation forum this was it.
Bearing in mind one side has F16s and F35s and the other side has powered hang gliders it’s a little asymmetric to say the least but can this be the place we discuss all matters related to air power in the conflict? BV The video attached below is one of the most visceral and clear videos I’ve ever seen of the destructive power and accuracy of air launched munitions. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e5OhTspt0g8 |
IIRC, they are using powered paragliders. Fly a helicopter over the top and the wing will collapse.
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Originally Posted by B Fraser
(Post 11517431)
IIRC, they are using powered paragliders. Fly a helicopter over the top and the wing will collapse.
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Anyone see the video of two F16s (sans wings) being towed along a highway? Most bizarre. It wasn't clear whether these were being moved by the Israelis or had been snaffled by Hamas.
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Originally Posted by melmothtw
(Post 11517447)
How close do you have to be, because the guys sat at the front of the paragliders had AKs?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F72HMSbX...jpg&name=small |
The vortex ring will reduce their inflated canopy to a bag of washing. It could even become quite a fun sport and no ammunition needed.
Edited to add a video, check out around 2:00. The helicopter was some distance away. |
I presume you mean downwash. If you are in vortex ring, the last thing on your mind will be shooting down paragliders
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Originally Posted by Herod
(Post 11517525)
I presume you mean downwash. If you are in vortex ring, the last thing on your mind will be shooting down paragliders
(Sorry for thread drift BV) |
Originally Posted by Bob Viking
(Post 11517426)
I have been reading the Gaza thread on Jetblast with interest but I figured if ever there was a use for a military aviation forum this was it.
Bearing in mind one side has F16s and F35s and the other side has powered hang gliders it’s a little asymmetric to say the least but can this be the place we discuss all matters related to air power in the conflict? BV The video attached below is one of the most visceral and clear videos I’ve ever seen of the destructive power and accuracy of air launched munitions. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e5OhTspt0g8 Reminds me of a few tall buildings taken down by strikes in Iraq a couple of decades ago. How did the Press know to be there? (go to about 0:35 in). Why was the building the one being watched? That fellow already had two cameras set up. @Overthawk: Hey, if you can kill 'em with rotor wash, it's still a kill! :p |
Thanks for the correction, wrong terminology. I only did a few lessons in an R22 for fun. I thought that the downwash had to be balanced by an upwash somewhere else.
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Originally Posted by B Fraser
(Post 11517545)
Thanks for the correction, wrong terminology. I only did a few lessons in an R22 for fun. I thought that the downwash had to be balanced by an upwash somewhere else.
Rotor downwash is a byproduct of the production of lift. |
The motor of paramotor makes a fair old racket, would it drown out the approach of an eggbeater, also not the quietest thing in aviation? The hardest thing would be seeing the paramotor at night in the first place I would have thought.
How about a pass by a jet. the wake vortex from that would be uncomfortable I would have thought, and much harder to hit with an AK47.? |
Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
(Post 11517544)
How did the Press know to be there? (go to about 0:35 in). Why was the building the one being watched? That fellow already had two cameras set up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=e5OhTspt0g8 |
Originally Posted by downsizer
(Post 11517584)
There are skyline cameras covering all of Gaza currently cus the press love a building coming down. I'd guess it was pure luck.
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[QUOTE=Lonewolf_50;11517544]I followed the video to the end.
How did the Press know to be there? (go to about 0:35 in). Why was the building the one being watched? That fellow already had two cameras In some instances, the buildings owners are given advance notice by the Israelis. |
Others are probably prime targets, Hamas HQ etc, so it makes sense for the press to watch them..
A burst from an Israeli Cobra would see the trikes off. |
Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
(Post 11517544)
How did the Press know to be there? (go to about 0:35 in). Why was the building the one being watched? That fellow already had two cameras set up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=e5OhTspt0g8 It actually happened on live TV on the Al Jazeera TV news show (I happened to be watching it at the time) and they had a female news reporter on the roof, dressed in helmet/flak jacket etc., with that building as backdrop, just behind her, and she was doing a feed to camera, when the first strike hit the roof, and she dropped down, screamed etc., and studio anchor was asking are you OK etc.,etc., get to safety etc., or can you continue, so the camera was still running when the following strikes hit which dropped most of the building (which is just the bit you see in the video clips being shown around) |
Originally Posted by B Fraser
(Post 11517545)
Thanks for the correction, wrong terminology. I only did a few lessons in an R22 for fun. I thought that the downwash had to be balanced by an upwash somewhere else.
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There have been some video (obviously can't find them now) of what was supposedly 'home brewed' SAM. Anyone with more specifics?!
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How did the Press know to be there? (go to about 0:35 in). Why was the building the one being watched? That fellow already had two cameras set up. That did, of course, allow the probable targets to escape - they news today is they have announced that no further advance warning will be given - and Hamas has said a hostage will be killed for every attack made without a warning. Example of a “tap” |
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