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RAF Chinook pilot jailed for sexual assault

Old 28th Mar 2023, 09:35
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It's an old saying, but possibly worth repeating. "An Act of Parliament made you an officer, but it would take an Act of God to make you a gentleman"
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The woman is into Martial Arts and Karate was mentioned at interview around 6 years ago but I also now know about Kick-boxing as well, and Judo may also be in her repertoire and she is quite a good Clay Pigeon shot as well.

At the moment is with me here in Doha as all being well in 3 years she will be my replacement. I will ask her what move she used, but it will mean bugger all to me, but more to you.

The office just knows not to mess with her as she is a little direct hence, a long handover phase because I have to change that in her. Sadly for the male staff as I said she bats for the other side, but a good member of staff and I have high hopes for her.

She had an incident with a colleague when working in Saigon when she put a drunk Englishman on his back as he was lecturing them about WW2 and all that, and she turned her back on him, and he grabbed her shoulder to turn her around. Big mistake. I got the report from my staff and client who both said she was provoked.

So just got to stop her hitting people, though apparently I told her to show more restraint after Saigon which is why she gave him fair warning ❗️

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Old 28th Mar 2023, 11:14
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'The licentious soldiery whose prerogative is to rape and pillage has no place in the Army of today'.

(Defence Scientific Advisory Council to Secretary of State for Defence, 14 August 2001).

At the time, it was thought this was the Army catching up with other Services.....
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Old 28th Mar 2023, 11:18
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Originally Posted by Mr Mac
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The woman is into Marshall Arts and Karate was mentioned at interview around 6 years ago but I also now know about Kick-boxing as well, and Judo may also be in her repertoire and she is quite a good Clay Pigeon shot as well.

At the moment is with me here in Doha as all being well in 3 years she will be my replacement. I will ask her what move she used, but it will mean bugger all to me, but more to you.

The office just knows not to mess with her as she is a little direct hence, a long handover phase because I have to change that in her. Sadly for the male staff as I said she bats for the other side, but a good member of staff and I have high hopes for her.

She had an incident with a colleague when working in Saigon when she put a drunk Englishman on his back as he was lecturing them about WW2 and all that, and she turned her back on him, and he grabbed her shoulder to turn her around. Big mistake. I got the report from my staff and client who both said she was provoked.

So just got to stop her hitting people, though apparently I told her to show more restraint after Saigon which is why she gave him fair warning ❗️

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Old 28th Mar 2023, 14:51
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Not sure who Ziva is, but 4th Dan Karate recently attained apparently. Studying something Hawaiian as well now. I asked about the arm and she said in retrospect maybe wrist but right arm. I did not ask further as I think she is a bit embarrassed about it.

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Old 28th Mar 2023, 14:57
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Not sure who Ziva is,
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TV show NCIS. Ziva David is a kick-ass former Mossad agent.

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Old 28th Mar 2023, 15:43
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Thank you for the update. I looked up your TV show our , Ziva is taller but a brunette but also a very good clothes horse. The short skirts got her into trouble.

The office reckon we should rent her out to the Ukrainians as the war would be over quicker is the consensus- joke 🙂

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Old 28th Mar 2023, 15:47
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The woman is into Marshall Arts
That's resolved matters: she was into the art of marshalling people... on this occasions marshalling the 3 US Navy officers away from her.

So we no longer need to worry about which martial art she might have used to achieve it.
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Joy of typing on IPhone so well spotted, and updated for you.

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Old 28th Mar 2023, 16:31
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It's an old saying, but possibly worth repeating. "An Act of Parliament made you an officer, but it would take an Act of God to make you a gentleman"
And there was me thinking it was the Sovereign.
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Old 28th Mar 2023, 16:38
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You're of course right, Langley. An Act proposed by Parliament, but requiring Royal Assent. Posted as I heard it, at a much younger age. Motto; think before posting
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Embarrasing for the RAFG but look at the Met , it s actually their job to /investigate prevent this kind of thing . Does Uniform -formal rank structures -elements of danger and risk as part of the job have anyhting to do with it compared to my wholly civilian world?? Look at the list of MPs, Councillors who have been accused of similar misconduct . Harder to cover things up these days but anything where sex and drink are involved at work in or out of uniform has the p[otential to end badly.. Excuse my civilan viewpoint

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The point is that Commissioned Officers are expected to be held to far higher standards of behaviour than are Civilians.
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Originally Posted by ExAscoteer2
The point is that Commissioned Officers are expected to be held to far higher standards of behaviour than are Civilians.
Is that taken for granted; or supported by regulation? Genuine question.

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It's certainly what I was taught at Cranditz in the CESR lessons (Customs, Etiquette, and Social Responsibility). It's generally referred to as 'Officer Qualities'.
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Is that taken for granted; or supported by regulation? Genuine question.

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Commissioned Officers receive formal training on wocial behaviour. Or at least we did in the 60s, although society and selection back then gave us a head start.
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Old 28th Mar 2023, 19:10
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Commissioned Officers receive formal training on wocial behaviour. Or at least we did in the 60s, although society and selection back then gave us a head start.
I never received formal training on wocial behaviour during my officer training. What is it?

Were were required to sign as having read “Officers’ Confidential Orders” on an annual basis. They were in effect guidelines on individual behaviour.
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I never received formal training on wocial behaviour during my officer training. What is it?

Were were required to sign as having read “Officers’ Confidential Orders” on an annual basis. They were in effect guidelines on individual behaviour.
So what is a were were? As it were.
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Originally Posted by MPN11
Commissioned Officers receive formal training on wocial behaviour. Or at least we did in the 60s, although society and selection back then gave us a head start.
Officers (and airmen/women) receive training on everything they do. Failing pilot training or atc training doesn't result in a court martial though. Since asking the question I've learned that 'inappropriate sexual behaviour' IS codified, with a presumption of dismissal and or criminal sanctions if guilty. That's not the same as 'expecting' higher standards though, is it?

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[QUOTE=ShyTorque;11410459]I never received formal training on wocial behaviour during my officer training. What is it?

You spelled 'woeful' incorrectly.

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