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Old 25th Mar 2023, 15:00
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Reading post 80 and previous related ones, there is also the current climate which expects that cuts will gradually be reversed. But I'm sure there will be the usual brew of politics, inside and outside Parliament regarding that, under any circumstances.

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Old 25th Mar 2023, 16:26
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And far fewer crewed assets.
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As 'predicted' on 3rd March...

BV, as usual, talks a lot of sense, but my problem with Knighton is not that he isn't aircrew, isn't an air power practitioner, nor that he has never had an operational command, but more that he seems unimpressive in his appearances before the HCDC, and smacks of having become the continuity candidate once Turner did his bike rack impersonation.

Whereas both Mayhew and Stringer have always impressed and always seemed immensely high calibre.

I hope I'm wrong.
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Old 29th Mar 2023, 20:01
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Whoever it is I just hope for a focus on war fighting rather than social engineering.
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Old 29th Mar 2023, 20:27
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Originally Posted by Timelord
Whoever it is I just hope for a focus on war fighting rather than social engineering.
So have we been involved in any Ops since he was appointed CAS or has he just focused on social engineering?
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I think it is fair to say that the current front line people that I know do not think that Sir Mike has contributed much to recent operations.
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I think it is fair to say that the current front line people that I know do not think that Sir Mike has contributed much to recent operations.
Do many heads of service contribute to operations, or do they command whilst their service is involved in operations? Granted, CAS never flew an FGR4 or Reaper during Op SHADER, or a C17 during Op PITTING or an RJ in the Black Sea. Define how he’s not contributing compared to any other CAS during SHADER or HERRICK. How did any CAS contribute to “Ops” during the Cold War?
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Morale? How is morale in your Crew Room?
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Old 29th Mar 2023, 21:03
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In The one I hear of daily it is pretty poor and given retention stats it’s not unique. If you think everything is great and CAS has done a bang up job then I am pleased for you. Others disagree and some of them have posted above and on a thread dedicated to ACM Wigston’s tenure.
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Originally Posted by Timelord
I think it is fair to say that the current front line people that I know do not think that Sir Mike has contributed much to recent operations.
I wonder what Air Chief Marshal The Lord Peach thinks about a "non-pilot" becoming CAS.

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[QUOTE=Union Jack;11411273]I wonder what Air Chief Marshal The Lord Peach thinks about a "non-pilot" becoming CAS.

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Why Jack, will it validate your thoughts if they’re similar to his?
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Selecting the new CAS seems a bit like shifting the deckchairs on the titanic.

From afar it seems to me selecting even the perfect leader will not do a lot to increase the RAF’s fighting power and influence !
It all comes down to money -of which we don’t seem to have a lot to spare!

Suggest amalgamate our armed forces to reduce number of top heavy staff ,reduce costs ,stop infighting and improve liaison ?
Also Sandhurst could be turned into an immigration centre ! ( flippant !)

(I know that it didn’t work in Canada years ago but times have changed !)

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Originally Posted by mahogany bob
Selecting the new CAS seems a bit like shifting the deckchairs on the titanic.

From afar it seems to me selecting even the perfect leader will not do a lot to increase the RAF’s fighting power and influence !
It all comes down to money -of which we don’t seem to have a lot to spare!

Suggest amalgamate our armed forces to reduce number of top heavy staff ,reduce costs ,stop infighting and improve liaison ?
Also Sandhurst could be turned into an immigration centre ! ( flippant !)

(I know that it didn’t work in Canada years ago but times have changed !)
Oh no, not that old line again, the Canadians have long since reversed the ill-advised purple uniform approach. Their naval personnel are back out of green and into blue and like wise the air force. I doesn't save money as much as excuses further defence cuts and contraction. Rishi Sunak, unlike Boris Johnson sees Ukraine as a far away squabble, for all his rhetoric. His masked slipped recently, and he very wrongly said all conflicts end in a negotiated settlement, and he expected this one to be resolved the same way. Our problem is we haven't got anyone in our entire political mainstream now who is at all exercised by concerns over foreign and defence affairs,
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Originally Posted by Finningley Boy
Oh no, not that old line again, the Canadians have long since reversed the ill-advised purple uniform approach. Their naval personnel are back out of green and into blue and like wise the air force. I doesn't save money as much as excuses further defence cuts and contraction. Rishi Sunak, unlike Boris Johnson sees Ukraine as a far away squabble, for all his rhetoric. His masked slipped recently, and he very wrongly said all conflicts end in a negotiated settlement, and he expected this one to be resolved the same way. Our problem is we haven't got anyone in our entire political mainstream now who is at all exercised by concerns over foreign and defence affairs,
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Not Ben Wallace?
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Old 30th Mar 2023, 15:43
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Originally Posted by Jackonicko
As 'predicted' on 3rd March...

BV, as usual, talks a lot of sense, but my problem with Knighton is not that he isn't aircrew, isn't an air power practitioner, nor that he has never had an operational command, but more that he seems unimpressive in his appearances before the HCDC, and smacks of having become the continuity candidate once Turner did his bike rack impersonation.

Whereas both Mayhew and Stringer have always impressed and always seemed immensely high calibre.

I hope I'm wrong.
Well, I hope so too. As others have pointed out, his "Air Power Practitioner" predecessors have presided over the now compromised state of the present day Royal Air Force. A particular compromise to my mind, you will not be surprised to hear, is the lack of airworthiness infecting its air fleets. Not only was this visited upon the RAF by VSO APP's in the late 80s/early 90's (in order to raid the Air Safety ring fenced budgets), but their illegal orders and activities have been covered up ever since by their successors. The result is that vital Air Regularity and Air Accident Investigatory reforms have been prevented (other than by occasional visits of the sign-writer) ever since. It was the expelling of experienced airworthiness engineers, both service and civilian, from their posts when they failed to obey those illegal orders that rid UK Military Aviation of the necessary corporate knowledge to reverse the malignant effect of the APPs' sabotage of UK Air Power.

That the RAF will now be led by an Engineer must surely give us some hope that he at least understands airworthiness and can start the long and painful process of regaining it. The rot started at the top and the star chamber has to set its own house in order and stop using subordinates as sacrificial lambs to cover its own incompetence. It seems there has been a slight shift in policy there, whereby companies are wrongly blamed instead, if the prosecution by HSE of MBL is anything to go by. The RAF sabotaged an MBL ejection seat by issuing an illegal servicing instruction that lead to the death of a pilot. This is a scandal that cries out for reform and not drawing the wagons into ever tighter circles!

Or do the airworthiness related fatal accident threads simply get added to further?
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Old 30th Mar 2023, 16:10
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Amalgamate the forces- Oh no not that again !

Well we know that it will never happen as there are far too many comfortable jobs up top! (more Admirals than ships ). The new CAS will never vote himself out of a job.

BUT with only 158,000 men in uniform do we need such a top heavy 3 pronged system - With the 3 arms fighting over a very small pie.

Inter service squabbles contributed to binning the Harrier early and buying 2 carriers which some think are very expensive luxuries!
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Old 30th Mar 2023, 16:37
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Originally Posted by Chugalug2
The result is that vital Air Regularity and Air Accident Investigatory reforms have been prevented (other than by occasional visits of the sign-writer) ever since.
Without in any way wishing to trivialise the point you are making, I dread to think what "Air Regularity" might entail......

One assumes you're referring to Air Regulatory........
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Originally Posted by mahogany bob
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BUT with only 158,000 men in uniform !
“Men” ? Oh dear
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