High altitude object shot down
Condoms filled with helium have been the core feature of many a stag do, hen party or indeed wedding reception. Some were bound to escape when the door or window was open, and when the supply of bread rolls as ammunition ran out.
We have a plague of contraceptives on the rampage.
We have a plague of contraceptives on the rampage.
No...Forget the balloons, forget the helium, forget those earthly mundane things...for the last hours US are talking with their respective Chinese and Russian counterparts because they are also experiencing the same "issues" regarding shooting down UAP these last days on their airspace ... Is it so bloody painful to admit we are dealing with some entities wich we don't know anything about..? Or is it some syndrome of arrogance that we must understand everything?
People doesn't deserve the truth because they are not prepared at all...
People doesn't deserve the truth because they are not prepared at all...
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I'm surprised nobody has pointed a finger at North Korea.
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No...Forget the balloons, forget the helium, forget those earthly mundane things...for the last hours US are talking with their respective Chinese and Russian counterparts because they are also experiencing the same "issues" regarding shooting down UAP these last days on their airspace ... Is it so bloody painful to admit we are dealing with some entities wich we don't know anything about..? Or is it some syndrome of arrogance that we must understand everything?
People doesn't deserve the truth because they are not prepared at all...
People doesn't deserve the truth because they are not prepared at all...
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As a former radar and comms techie, my view is that the apparent increase in detections of "stuff" since the massive balloon incident is down to NORAD doing the digital equivalent of reducing the clutter rejection setting. There have been homemade projects getting up to around 90,000ft or higher flying around for at least a decade. The Icarus project may have started it back in 2009. This article shows what's been going on with amateur high altitude projects like this: https://mashable.com/article/diy-spa...itude-balloons
In parallel with this has been the boom in homemade UAVs. Several people have had a go at making a DIY version of Qinetiq's Zephyr developments over the past decade and a half (https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/zephyr/ ). Some DIY stuff may pay heed to regulations. Many may not. The technology needed to make a HAPS aircraft (High Altitude Pseudo Satellite) is affordable and can be easily bought on many online market places. High efficiency brushless motors are dirt cheap, as are LiPo batteries. Carbon composite structural parts are also readily available. Model aircraft bods use this stuff all the time. Hardest stuff to get is thin film solar panels. Even they are available online from places like this though: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3304...d=uZoYjneTPIh4
People like to DIY replicate commercial kit (like this: https://www.sonnenseite.com/en/mobil...nned-aircraft/ ) as a hobby. Part of this is driven by social media.
My best guess is that NORAD et al are now detecting lots of stuff that's been floating/flying around our skies for years. Until they opened up the clutter rejection settings they just weren't seeing it. May be that Russia/China/North Korea/choose your own enemy has been taking advantage of this for some time. We've seen from the technological adaptability of Ukraine just how quickly COTS parts can be turned into effective surveillance and weapons systems. We'd be bloody stupid to think that several other countries haven't been doing the same.
In parallel with this has been the boom in homemade UAVs. Several people have had a go at making a DIY version of Qinetiq's Zephyr developments over the past decade and a half (https://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/zephyr/ ). Some DIY stuff may pay heed to regulations. Many may not. The technology needed to make a HAPS aircraft (High Altitude Pseudo Satellite) is affordable and can be easily bought on many online market places. High efficiency brushless motors are dirt cheap, as are LiPo batteries. Carbon composite structural parts are also readily available. Model aircraft bods use this stuff all the time. Hardest stuff to get is thin film solar panels. Even they are available online from places like this though: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3304...d=uZoYjneTPIh4
People like to DIY replicate commercial kit (like this: https://www.sonnenseite.com/en/mobil...nned-aircraft/ ) as a hobby. Part of this is driven by social media.
My best guess is that NORAD et al are now detecting lots of stuff that's been floating/flying around our skies for years. Until they opened up the clutter rejection settings they just weren't seeing it. May be that Russia/China/North Korea/choose your own enemy has been taking advantage of this for some time. We've seen from the technological adaptability of Ukraine just how quickly COTS parts can be turned into effective surveillance and weapons systems. We'd be bloody stupid to think that several other countries haven't been doing the same.
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Another one today shot down by a fighter, getting somewhat close to home. Therefore, I have decided to temporarily give up my lawnchair/ballooning hobby...
https://www.cbc.ca/news/calgary-ball...unts-1.3141492
https://www.cbc.ca/news/calgary-ball...unts-1.3141492
They say they reset the parameters for what they looked for on radar, which is why they spotted three unknown objects floating on the wind.
He also says that it is difficult for a high speed jet to get a good look at what is essentially/relatively a stationary object.
They also say that all three objects crash landed in remote areas that are difficult to search in the winter. No surprise.
They also said that it was reasonable to shoot down things that were floating at an altitude that could encounter commercial aviation.
It is still described as “an object” not a “balloon.”
And there “is” no US surveillance aircraft in Chinese airspace.
”We’re in uncharted territory here. No pun intended.”
He also says that it is difficult for a high speed jet to get a good look at what is essentially/relatively a stationary object.
They also say that all three objects crash landed in remote areas that are difficult to search in the winter. No surprise.
They also said that it was reasonable to shoot down things that were floating at an altitude that could encounter commercial aviation.
It is still described as “an object” not a “balloon.”
And there “is” no US surveillance aircraft in Chinese airspace.
”We’re in uncharted territory here. No pun intended.”
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Lol... This is so funny... The young lady at the very beginning :
"I loved the Alien movie but we are not talking about aliens or extraterrestrials... No such evidence of that"
One minute later the old man :
"We still don't know what it is"
So... Basically what this public conference has solved or added to the public?
Carry on...I love Popcorns with Coke 👌
"I loved the Alien movie but we are not talking about aliens or extraterrestrials... No such evidence of that"
One minute later the old man :
"We still don't know what it is"
So... Basically what this public conference has solved or added to the public?
Carry on...I love Popcorns with Coke 👌
From live briefing
“One military commander said the latest object could have been a "gaseous type of balloon"
as opposed to a non-gaseous type?
“One military commander said the latest object could have been a "gaseous type of balloon"
as opposed to a non-gaseous type?
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As opposed to a 'hot-air' balloon-type I presume he is trying to say? Lifting via the heating effect on atmospheric air, rather than contained helium or hydrogen gas which are intrinsically lighter than air
Helium has a lower density than air so it floats above it, make the Helium balloon big enough and the difference is large enough to carry a payload, instruments or people, or bombs, or missiles or chocolate eggs.
Hot air balloons heat the air trapped inside the envelope which reduces its density to less than the surrounding atmospheric air so it rises up for exactly the same reason as a helium balloon. !!!