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Red arrows confusing display team make up

Old 6th Jul 2022, 01:29
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We traditionalists need the nine back
Wot about having the 22 back? Why did the Hunters do their thing with flap hanging out?



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Better maneuverabilty; not to be used above .9M, however.......
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Old 6th Jul 2022, 15:11
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Wot about having the 22 back? Why did the Hunters do their thing with flap hanging out?


Only happened once, with aircraft and aircrew from other squadrons drafted in.
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Old 6th Jul 2022, 16:35
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Only happened once, with aircraft and aircrew from other squadrons drafted in.
Yes, but WHAT a "ONCE"
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Yes, but WHAT a "ONCE"
Oh yes, canít disagree with that!
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In 10 years time there'll probably be a single "Red Arrow"
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Originally Posted by Asturias56 View Post
In 10 years time there'll probably be a single "Red Arrow"
Red? Suspect it will have to be rainbow colored.
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In 10 years time there'll probably be a single "Red Arrow"
Before we reach that stage maybe the RAF should come clean and detox. Otherwise people might think that far from solving the problem by moving people, it actually remains and is not only at pilot level.
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Old 7th Jul 2022, 21:00
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"Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, next to display is the 2023 RAF Aerobatic Hawk. Please welcome The Rainbow!"
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I did muse that the reduction to seven was because there are seven colours of the rainbow to dye the diesel, (eco-friendly dye of course).
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Being a local resident, about an hour ago they took off from here with only 6, five in a V and one tucked up in the middle.
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Old 8th Jul 2022, 21:44
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"Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, next to display is the 2023 RAF Aerobatic Hawk. Please welcome The Rainbow!"
Oohh! You'd fail the Public Display Authorisation for that! Ladies and gentleman, boys and girls indeed!
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Oh, yes, I'm about forty "titles" short there. Sorry.
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Being a local resident, about an hour ago they took off from here with only 6, five in a V and one tucked up in the middle.
Ladies, Gents etc, The Brazilian ?

Ferret, Mac, Egress
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OOOOOOOOOOOOH.
It's all gone very quiet. Censorship?
I guess that the spotters will have to wait until the Mail get's the story.
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The best Military aerobatic team by far at RIAT were the Korean team. Spectacular formation changes during maneuvers, and very close formation at times.
The Italian team by presence in numbers overshadowed the Arrows too , with a small 7 man team, presumably financial cut backs?
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Old 18th Jul 2022, 10:33
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I missed seeing the Arrows to be able to compare them against the others, but the Black Eagles where certainly the best on the day (sunday), was there any reason for the arrows displaying near the start of the day, I've always expected them to close the show ?
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Originally Posted by cessnapete View Post
The best Military aerobatic team by far at RIAT were the Korean team. Spectacular formation changes during maneuvers, and very close formation at times.
The Italian team by presence in numbers overshadowed the Arrows too , with a small 7 man team, presumably financial cut backs?
pains me to say it but their display is becoming rather dated and isn't helped by a 7 ship at present. There are many other exceptional teams out there and at RIAT both the black Eagles and Frecce Tricolori were far superior (in my opinion) with tighter formations and inventive manoeuvres. The Reds have quite rightly always been the pinnacle for display teams across the globe but the competition has caught up and now gone past them!
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I first saw the Red Arrows at Leuchars in the mid 1980s when they were parked next to the 40 year old museum pieces of the BBMF, all very beautiful, worth having 100% but antiquated and dated. The Red Arrows are still flying the same aircraft 40 years after that event, they're equivalence to the BBMF in that timeframe is painful. They were not relatively impressive at all when I saw them yesterday with the 7 ship formation. We should do it well, or stop doing it at all IMHO, it's a little bit cringeworthy now.
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pains me to say it but their display is becoming rather dated and isn't helped by a 7 ship at present. There are many other exceptional teams out there and at RIAT both the black Eagles and Frecce Tricolori were far superior (in my opinion) with tighter formations and inventive manoeuvres. The Reds have quite rightly always been the pinnacle for display teams across the globe but the competition has caught up and now gone past them!
Golden Eagles. But yeah, stole the show in my eyes. Really frickin' awesome in fact.]

Stopped for a McD's and a car recharge on the way home on Saturday, they flew in formation over R Leamington Spa, or thereabouts, as we topped up.

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