I first saw the Red Arrows at Leuchars in the mid 1980s when they were parked next to the 40 year old museum pieces of the BBMF, all very beautiful, worth having 100% but antiquated and dated. The Red Arrows are still flying the same aircraft 40 years after that event, they're equivalence to the BBMF in that timeframe is painful. They were not relatively impressive at all when I saw them yesterday with the 7 ship formation. We should do it well, or stop doing it at all IMHO, it's a little bit cringeworthy now.