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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 22:02
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"While we take maximum care to avoid overpopulated areas
That's the whole planet, now. David Attenborough reckons that the World population has tripled in the time he's been making nature programmes...

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Old 23rd Jan 2022, 22:57
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Stationed a Finningley, still a V Force dispersal, and living in Bessacarr Doncaster, the 0400 scramble or two sounded like an insurance policy. The country believed in the sound of freedom in those days.

On reflection, about half the Met. Office of Finningley and Bawtry lived in Bessacarr or thereabouts.
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Idiots. All of them. And that includes the “journos” who even bothered reporting on a non event.
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Originally Posted by wiggy
Very much agree…I was brought up/went to school in late 60s/early 70s under the centre line a link route (anybody remember those and the smaller LFAs that went with them) between LFA 7 (Wales) and LFA 4 ( Shropshire/Worcestershire)…….on the good days it was a FJ overhead every ten or fifteen minutes….

Youth of today..paah….
I remember those days well. Especially keeping an eye out for the A10's that would roll in to 'attack' the tractor I was driving across my sisters Worcestershire farm.
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Old 24th Jan 2022, 08:10
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Probably the only thing of interest to happen in Scotland all that day!!
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Old 24th Jan 2022, 08:16
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Simply a lack of public awareness of what it takes to protect the nation, which surely Channel 5 could remedy effortlessly "Warplane - Life in the Air"? Simples!
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Old 24th Jan 2022, 09:40
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Low flying in 2022

Let me first add some perspective. I love low flying. It’s awesome. It’s the most fun you can have whilst flying and I still get to do it regularly in some incredible terrain and I will never get bored of doing it.

Sadly low flying just isn’t the panacea it used to be in terms of a tactic. Therefore we just don’t need to practise it as much as we used to. That means you won’t see low level jets as regularly as you used to. That’s sad but it’s just the way it is.

The British Army no longer practise cavalry charges or fighting squares any more. The RN probably don’t practise 50 gun broadsides either. That’s because military tactics evolve.

As much as I’d love to see the RAF/RN/USAF wazzing round the Welsh/Cumbrian/Scottish hills all day every day it’s just not as necessary as it once was. And watching jets on FR24 (I know they don’t show up on FR24 - I’m being facetious) cranking/notching/aborting in D323 just doesn’t compare in terms of pure excitement.

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Old 24th Jan 2022, 12:18
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This was night low level. Does this indicate a renewed interest in the F15E night TF capability that has been allowed to wither for several years iaw BV’s explanation? Maybe LL is coming back into fashion?

And I wouldn’t be so sure about the army and cavalry charges if I were you!

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Old 24th Jan 2022, 13:45
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I remember those days well. Especially keeping an eye out for the A10's that would roll in to 'attack' the tractor I was driving across my sisters Worcestershire farm.
and approaching the Lincoln edge below edge height and startling the sh1t out of drivers where the A15 [?] S to N is near the edge. Brown trouser moment.
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Originally Posted by Bob Viking
Let me first add some perspective. I love low flying. It’s awesome. It’s the most fun you can have whilst flying and I still get to do it regularly in some incredible terrain and I will never get bored of doing it.

Sadly low flying just isn’t the panacea it used to be in terms of a tactic. Therefore we just don’t need to practise it as much as we used to. That means you won’t see low level jets as regularly as you used to. That’s sad but it’s just the way it is.

The British Army no longer practise cavalry charges or fighting squares any more. The RN probably don’t practise 50 gun broadsides either. That’s because military tactics evolve.

As much as I’d love to see the RAF/RN/USAF wazzing round the Welsh/Cumbrian/Scottish hills all day every day it’s just not as necessary as it once was. And watching jets on FR24 (I know they don’t show up on FR24 - I’m being facetious) cranking/notching/aborting in D323 just doesn’t compare in terms of pure excitement.

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Now now BV, that's very fixed wing centric isn't it! Go rotary and you can low fly all you like (subject to serviceability!)
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The question should be why now?

Practising for places East of here?
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Old 24th Jan 2022, 14:44
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I remember bimbling along the Kirkstone Pass in a gyrocopter and being advised to keep well to the right as the fast jets used the bit in the middle. Or the time over Shobdon in K8 unable to do much to get out of the way of a couple of approaching FJs on account of the Harrier passing underneath me, I just increased the bank angle so they could see the wing flash.
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Old 24th Jan 2022, 14:46
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On a thread specifically about low flying jets I felt that this could be a designated safe space. Obviously low flying in helicopters still retains a certain tactical relevance (necessity!).

Also, as I mentioned, I still get plenty of LL flying but it’s not all about me.

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Old 24th Jan 2022, 14:48
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In the current climate I would be more alarmed by low flying Migs.
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Old 24th Jan 2022, 14:54
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Originally Posted by Bob Viking
On a thread specifically about low flying jets I felt that this could be a designated safe space. Obviously low flying in helicopters still retains a certain tactical relevance (necessity!).

Also, as I mentioned, I still get plenty of LL flying but it’s not all about me.

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Old 24th Jan 2022, 18:14
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Aah, the old Cold War days in West G. when our exercise Air Control Orders required us rotary chaps to fly "not ABOVE 150 feet AGL", to give us a buffer altitude from the jets who were supposed to be not BELOW 250 feet AGL.. Interesting when the HT pylons were up to 300 feet AGL....

The locals were often not too impressed. but I suppose they were more used to it then than today.
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Old 24th Jan 2022, 18:55
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Just an 80 year old civvie. Today at 15.27, 3 medium size light grey helicopters, in formation, passed me on the beach ~12 NM east of Lossie. No roundels, no star of any colour, no script showing. No complaint.
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Old 24th Jan 2022, 19:10
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Originally Posted by langleybaston
Stationed a Finningley, still a V Force dispersal, and living in Bessacarr Doncaster, the 0400 scramble or two sounded like an insurance policy. The country believed in the sound of freedom in those days.
I remember vividly the last 1Gp mass survival scramble of Vulcans from WAD and SCA. A lovely sunny day, as both stations launched everything they had … each departing on their 4 designated fan-tracks in turn … Track 1, 2, 3, 4, 1, 2, 3, 4 … it went on and on and on, smoke trails from both sets of tracks clearly defined in the N. Lincs sky. And the County vibrated from the roar of both Wings launching for several minutes. How many launched? No idea, but there were lots of them!

I never heard of any noise complaints in circulation.
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Old 24th Jan 2022, 19:17
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Damn!

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