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Afghanistan 2021 Onwards

Old 9th Sep 2021, 12:38
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Taliban, as expected, are reported to have at least partially destroyed the tomb of Ahmad Massoudin the Panjshir valley.

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Old 9th Sep 2021, 21:44
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To which the answer is, are you serious? What would it gain us and why would provide either funds or potential hostages?

Even the Foreign Office sometimes chases the red pill rather than the blue…

https://news.sky.com/story/why-dont-...eturn-12403466

'Why don't they come back?': Taliban occupying British embassy in Kabul urge diplomats'
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Old 10th Sep 2021, 01:32
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Like several of the commanders we spoke to, he wants "normal" relations with the rest of the world. About 80% of Afghanistan's money comes from foreign donations or aid. The country simply cannot afford to be ostracised.
That sums up exactly what they want, without it the place will fall apart and their power will be lost as the country reverts to lawlessness. You can’t eat drugs so people will have to grow food.
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They snatched defeat from the jaws of Victory

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If only Massoud had been listened to in early 2001 we may still have the Trade Towers.
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If only Massoud had been listened to in early 2001 we may still have the Trade Towers.
Absolutely. He spoke at the European Parliament to warn us about the threat posed by Al Quaeda but not many were listening. The moment that the news of the attacks appeared it was the first thing that occurred to me.
As I predicted earlier, desecration of Massoud's grave was a certainty - I just saw the relevant post.
Meanwhile, here's an alarming article from the NY Post (FWIW) about the Taliban "Special Forces". If it's accurate then it's sufficient justification for a total embargo on any recognition of the entire gang. The article also suggests that there are a substantial number of functional aviation assets in the Taliban's possession; whether that's true or not who knows?
https://nypost.com/2021/09/09/inside...suicide-squad/
Shocking - if not surprising. The "reformed" Taliban.....

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Old 10th Sep 2021, 09:11
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ign-passengers

Afghanistan flight carrying more than 100 foreign passengers lands in Doha

A flight carrying more than 100 international passengers out of Kabul has landed in Doha, the first such civilian flight since the chaotic evacuation of 124,000 foreigners and at-risk Afghans sparked by the Taliban’s swift takeover of the country.

About 113 people were aboard the flight to Doha operated by state-owned Qatar Airways, officials said. The passengers included US, British, Canadian, Ukrainian, Dutch and German citizens.

Qatari special envoy Mutlaq bin Majed al-Qahtani described Thursday’s flight as a regular one and not an evacuation, and said there would be another flight on Friday. In Doha, the passengers will initially stay in a compound hosting Afghan and other evacuees…..

US state department spokesperson Ned Price said 10 US citizens and 11 permanent residents were on the flight, out of “the 39 we invited”. Canada said 43 of its citizens were on the plane, while the UK and the Netherlands each had 13 on board.…..
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Old 12th Sep 2021, 02:51
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https://www.cnbc.com/2021/09/10/9/11...ghanistan.html

It puts it in perspective.

WASHINGTON — $290 million every day for 7,300 days. That’s how much money America spent on 20 years of war and nation-building in Afghanistan, according to Brown University’s Costs of War project.
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But most was spent in the USA - or on US based companies - so it was really a vast subsidy in effect
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Old 13th Sep 2021, 11:49
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An in depth look at the destruction wrought on the remaining military assets at Kabul airport..

They appear to have done a damned good job of rendering a lot of it as scrap.



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Pass me the checklist ahmed!
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Old 14th Sep 2021, 09:22
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It looks like the Taliban leadership may now be popping each other off.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...om-public-view
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Pass me the checklist ahmed!
Looks like capcom fodder.
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Old 14th Sep 2021, 12:19
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more like cannon fodder. but hey ho..
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Old 14th Sep 2021, 12:36
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I could do a lot more damage to the fixed wing aircraft given half an hour with a sledge hammer. Assuming that avionics etc have been removed, it's hard to understand why the airframes have been left relatively intact - unlike the helicopters.
However unlikely, it reminds me a bit of Albert Speer's decision to leave German infrastructure intact pending likely post-war reconstruction (thereby countering Hitler's scorched earth order). Maybe the Talibs are expected to turn them into crop sprayers - which might help them grow more Poppy as part of Afghanistan's "economic reconstruction".
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Skridlov, watch the top film i posted on my post about three up, I agree with what you are saying, It almost makes one think they were disabled not to be able to fly, but not sufficently to prevent them being rebuilt in the future back in the USA. But would you want to fly in an aircraft where you do not know what has been poured into the oil or fuel tanks?

All they needed to do was drive a truck of which there were many, in reverse down the line smashing into the fuselages and wings, job done, use the same trucks and reverse into those in the Hangars and push them against each other into the back wall, job done, you could crush them into pulp in no time at all. anything like a search or deice truck drive it into the Hercs and spear them through the cockpit / cabin etc.

I see the ground power sets have oil under them all so either pipes have been cut or the sump plugs have been pulled and the sets run until they seized.
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CENTCOM Commander just admitted in Pentagon presser that drone strike that killed 10 - that Biden claimed was averting an imminent IED attack (which CENTCOM believed was the case) - was a mistake and all killed were innocent civilians.

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Thanks RAFEng. Here's the full Reuters report
WASHINGTON, Sept 17 (Reuters) - The U.S. military said on Friday that a drone strike in Kabul last month killed as many 10 civilians, including seven children, and it apologized for what the Pentagon said was a tragic mistake.

Senior U.S. officers had said the Aug. 29 strike that took place as foreign forces completed the last stages of their withdrawal from Afghanistan targeted an Islamic States suicide bomber who posed an imminent threat to Kabul airport.

"At the time of the strike, I was confident that the strike had averted an imminent threat to our forces at the airport," U.S. General Frank McKenzie, the head of U.S. Central Command, told reporters. "Our investigation now concludes that the strike was a tragic mistake."

He said he now believed it unlikely that those who died were Islamic State militants or posed a direct threat to U.S. forces. The Pentagon was considering reparations for the civilians killed, McKenzie said.

Reports had emerged almost immediately that the drone strike had killed civilians including children. A spokesman for Afghanistan's new Taliban rulers, Zabihullah Mujahid, had said at the time that strike had killed seven people.

(This story has been refiled to remove superfluous "it" from lede)
Reporting by Phil Stewart and Idrees Ali; Additional reporting by Patricia Zengerle; Editing by Daniel Wallis
One of the problems, perhaps, of having no 'boots on the ground' and no local intelligence. Appalling tragedy.

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Old 17th Sep 2021, 20:38
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As was expected….

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...in-afghanistan

Taliban ban girls from secondary education in Afghanistant

The Taliban have effectively banned girls from secondary education in Afghanistan, by ordering high schools to re-open only for boys.

Girls were not mentioned in Friday’s announcement, which means boys will be back at their desks next week after a one-month hiatus, while their sisters will still be stuck at home.

The Taliban education ministry said secondary school classes for boys in grades seven to 12 would resume on Saturday, the start of the Afghan week. “All male teachers and students should attend their educational institutions,” the statement said. The future of girls and female teachers, stuck at home since the Taliban took control, was not addressed.

The edict makes Afghanistan the only country on earth to bar half its population from getting a secondary education.

In a further sign that the recently announced Taliban government is tightening restrictions on women, the former ministry of women’s affairs building in Kabul has been handed over to the newly re-established ministry for the prevention of vice and promotion of virtue.

This was the group’s feared enforcer in the 1990s, charged with beating women who violated bars on everything from going out in public without a male guardian to an obsessively prescriptive dress code that even forbade high heels.….
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How the pineapple express happened

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