RAF C-130J's to be retired early?
A trivia question for those under 30: Where did the term "Fat Albert" come from? No fair using Google.
Obvvious the Fat Albert Cartoon, dunno if they stole it from something else
HEY HEY HEY. Its fat albert ! and I am going to sing a song for you. That song is still in my head from when I was a kid
HEY HEY HEY. Its fat albert ! and I am going to sing a song for you. That song is still in my head from when I was a kid
Sorry,
The show you're thinking of did not premiere until 1972, whereas the Blues had already named their plane by 1970. But you're on the right track.
Here's a hint (which like this question has nothing to do with aviation): "Buck-buck".
OK, I guess I'm going to have to give the answer.
Remember I said you were on the right track? The character did appear in that cartoon starting in 1972, but that was not where the character originated. In 1967 Bill Cosby recorded a comedy album titled "Revenge". One of the stories on that album was called "Buck Buck", about teams of kids who would bend over in a line and another team of kids would jump on their backs one by one until the first team couldn't hold any more and would collapse. Then the teams would reverse roles. The team that held the most would be the winner. A team of big tough kids from the other side of town challenged Bill and his buddies and it looked bad for the local guys until Bill's team brought out their secret weapon:
FAT ALBERT
(who weighed, "2,000 pounds")
(who weighed, "2,000 pounds")
It was that routine that inspired naming the Blue's aircraft specifically and other "stout" types in general Fat Albert.
P.S. There should be a link here where everyone can hear the routine, but I'm not always seeing it.
Last edited by Commando Cody; 11th Jul 2023 at 05:18. Reason: insuring link is there
The only thing that can replace a C130 is 1.5 C-130's
Australia has ordered 20 C-130J with deliveries starting 2027. How many will we be operating is a grey area. We currently have 12, but these are in the process of being upgraded to latest spec. First upgraded one was delivered last year.
Guessing between the 12 old ones and the new one the RAAF is targetting an operational number of around 24, with the by the time the last 8 new ones arrive they will start replacing the old upgraded one
Australia has ordered 20 C-130J with deliveries starting 2027. How many will we be operating is a grey area. We currently have 12, but these are in the process of being upgraded to latest spec. First upgraded one was delivered last year.
Guessing between the 12 old ones and the new one the RAAF is targetting an operational number of around 24, with the by the time the last 8 new ones arrive they will start replacing the old upgraded one
The only thing that can replace a C130 is 1.5 C-130's
Australia has ordered 20 C-130J with deliveries starting 2027. How many will we be operating is a grey area. We currently have 12, but these are in the process of being upgraded to latest spec. First upgraded one was delivered last year.
Guessing between the 12 old ones and the new one the RAAF is targetting an operational number of around 24, with the by the time the last 8 new ones arrive they will start replacing the old upgraded one
Australia has ordered 20 C-130J with deliveries starting 2027. How many will we be operating is a grey area. We currently have 12, but these are in the process of being upgraded to latest spec. First upgraded one was delivered last year.
Guessing between the 12 old ones and the new one the RAAF is targetting an operational number of around 24, with the by the time the last 8 new ones arrive they will start replacing the old upgraded one
I thought that the 20 new were to replace old C-130's and the Spartan (C-27J) fleet?
Thats a grey area. The C-27 are going to be allocated to non military tasking like disaster response and SAR. They will be flown by the military but have non military taskings, for SAR last year they were testing airdrpped life rafts and stuff from them.
The talk is that the new 20 will be replacing the old 12, that will happen at some stage. But as it stands now, I think the 20 are being purchased to cover the decrease in airlift capability due the C-27 going out and losing some of the C-130 airframes to the upgrade process
Thats a grey area. The C-27 are going to be allocated to non military tasking like disaster response and SAR. They will be flown by the military but have non military taskings, for SAR last year they were testing airdrpped life rafts and stuff from them.
The talk is that the new 20 will be replacing the old 12, that will happen at some stage. But as it stands now, I think the 20 are being purchased to cover the decrease in airlift capability due the C-27 going out and losing some of the C-130 airframes to the upgrade process
The talk is that the new 20 will be replacing the old 12, that will happen at some stage. But as it stands now, I think the 20 are being purchased to cover the decrease in airlift capability due the C-27 going out and losing some of the C-130 airframes to the upgrade process
Media Release: Multibillion dollar investment in new C-130J Hercules aircraft
24 JULY 2023
The Albanese Government will purchase 20 new C-130J Hercules aircraft for the Royal Australian Air Force for $9.8 billion. This will provide the Air Force with state of the art C-130 Hercules to meet the air transport needs of the future.
The new acquisitions will replace and expand upon the 12 Hercules aircraft currently operated by Air Force with delivery of the first aircraft expected from late 2027.
There will be significant benefits for Australian industry from the expanded fleet size, with opportunities to construct facilities and infrastructure and to sustain the aircraft.
The Australian Defence Force relies on the C-130J Hercules aircraft for the deployment of personnel, equipment and humanitarian supplies. The iconic aircraft is regularly used in search and rescue missions, disaster relief and medical evacuation.
The C-130J has been involved in almost every major Defence operation in recent decades, from Bougainville assistance and Timor-Leste peacekeeping through to conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan. More recently the aircraft supported Australia’s response to COVID-19 in the region, delivering vaccines and medical supplies, as well bushfire and flood response.
The C-130J Hercules are made by Lockheed Martin and are being purchased from the United States. The aircraft will continue to be operated by No. 37 Squadron at RAAF Base Richmond in NSW.
Quotes attributable to Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Defence, the Hon Richard Marles MP:
“The C-130J Hercules is an important capability for our defence force, but also for Australia as a nation.
“From bushfire and flood emergencies across the country, the delivery of crucial supplies to the region during the COVID-19 pandemic and more than two decades supporting peacekeeping operations, this has and will continue to be a crucial asset.
“The Albanese Government is committed to ensuring the ADF is equipped with the capabilities it needs to keep Australians safe, and this targeted expansion of the fleet size will do just that.”
Quotes attributable to Minister for Defence Industry, the Hon Pat Conroy MP:
“The Government is ensuring the Australian Defence Force is equipped with brand new C-130J Hercules aircraft, and more of them, to respond to the wide range of challenges our nation will face in the future.
“Since 1999, the C-130J Hercules has served Australia across our region and beyond, proving to be a reliable workhorse in roles from humanitarian operations to conflict zones.
“Having 20 aircraft, up from 12, will mean more opportunities for local industry to sustain the aircraft, creating more Australian jobs. There’ll also be jobs associated with infrastructure redevelopments at RAAF Base Richmond.”
Very clearly the old airframes will be are being retired and 20 are being procured as replacements. Presumably as two squadrons of 10 airframes.
OZ has had C130s since the early `60s`......
Following CC's item and apologies for the thread drift but back at school in the 50s we played Bill Cosby's "Buck Buck" game but called it "British Bulldog". Don't know what H and S would have made of it but we all survived..
The C-27s are due to start a AUD70 million secure radio upgrade programme starting in September and finishing in 2026. 35 Sqn have also been conducting resupply exercises with the army to test 'the squadron’s tactical readiness to plan, deploy and fly missions at short notice'.
The FMS declaration last September was for 24 not 20 C-130s at USD 6.35 Billion.
The FMS declaration last September was for 24 not 20 C-130s at USD 6.35 Billion.
Last edited by SLXOwft; 25th Jul 2023 at 15:23. Reason: Ex Ready Spartan Prove
They aren't they being reallocated to non military taskings. The basics is that they a self defence and awareness systems have failed multiple benchmarks. Main offender is the missile approach and warning system