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RAF C-130J's to be retired early?

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Old 16th Jun 2023, 15:27
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Telegraph article is by Lewis Page, so not worth clicking on.
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What are views on how sellable the C4s and the remaining unsold C5s are? Rumours were rife that Sweden was looking to replace is Hs with 6 UK J's then it agreed to buy (4+2 options) surplus Italian J's but cancelled the order on the grounds that the refurb costs quote from 'industry' was far too high. The Greeks were subsequently supposed to be interested getting the 6 of Italian ones the Swedes rejected but later rumoured to be getting a combination of 2 USAF surplus C130s (model not specified) and 2+ J's under an FMS. South Africa is apparently trying to decide between 1) some of the UKs J's or 2) short term ex-USAF Hs (OSD 2028) and an upgrade their existing 5 -BZs for R1.6 billion (c £800m) extending the OSD to 2040 or 3) complete ditch their C-130 capability.

P.S. 622, you would have had to stand on top of one of the Thorney Island hangars to have got a reasonable view of them at that distance.

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Originally Posted by sfm818
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Interior Airways (Alaska) operated the L-100 in the UK and around Europe during the 1970-72 timeframe.
Can't remember details but Hercs regularly flew from Sydenham to US around this period carrying RB211 which had been podded by Shorts, now Spirit Aerospace. I think the engines were for TriStars and Shorts workmanship was highly praised.
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Old 16th Jun 2023, 21:56
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Assume the C130 pilots are headed to the A400M? Or..?
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Originally Posted by ihoharv;[url=tel:11452184
11452184]Assume the C130 pilots are headed to the A400M? Or..?
… or BA, Virgin, TUI, etc.
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Old 17th Jun 2023, 07:04
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Originally Posted by ihoharv
Assume the C130 pilots are headed to the A400M? Or..?
I believe New Zealand is taking delivery of new ones and Australia has no intention of getting rid of theirs. Golden opportunity perhaps. In addition, the RAAF and RNZAF don't have any bias against white males.

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Old 17th Jun 2023, 08:10
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Originally Posted by bugged on the right
I believe New Zealand is taking delivery of new ones and Australia has no intention of getting rid of theirs. Golden opportunity perhaps.
Aus has 24 -J's on order to replace / suppliment our 12 -J's. Also rumor that 6 KC-130's might be on the cards as well
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Originally Posted by ZH875
how long as the Mach Loop not been in Wales, as the formation went through area
Fair enough - I meant nearly Bugger All!
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Old 17th Jun 2023, 16:21
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In the Glasgow-Edinburgh gap they were up at 20k = so the routing was rather irrelevant
Lunch break?
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Old 17th Jun 2023, 16:36
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Apparently, there were a lot of very annoyed enthusiasts at Cosford.

Seemingly, and understandably, all set up with the expectation they would arrive from Alrewas / East, they did a little wibble around Stafford, near enough to give a passing nod as it were to RAF Stafford (as was) before following the A41 and crossing Cosford from the North.
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Not really a case of "following the plan" for some reason !!


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Old 18th Jun 2023, 04:20
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Doesn't look like 20K to me.
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Originally Posted by chevvron
Doesn't look like 20K to me.
That's because it is the Mach Loop, do try to keep up!
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I dare say the remaining crews of the Hercs will be 're-educated' after 30 Jun to become Atlas drivers.
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Old 18th Jun 2023, 09:01
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Originally Posted by bugged on the right
In addition, the RAAF and RNZAF don't have any bias against white males.
You obviously haven’t spent any time in NZ lately.
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Originally Posted by chevvron
I dare say the remaining crews of the Hercs will be 're-educated' after 30 Jun to become Atlas drivers.
Hard to see what point you’re trying to make. Converting from one type to another is entirely normal.
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Old 18th Jun 2023, 11:34
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Originally Posted by Video Mixdown
Hard to see what point you’re trying to make. Converting from one type to another is entirely normal.
True enough - but there will now be fewer transport aircraft in the fleet so there may not be slots for everyone in the near term. (Has the Atlas fleet reached its planned establishment? And is its aircraft/crew ratio the same as on the C-130? All the boring backstage detail that will affect such transfers.)
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Old 18th Jun 2023, 11:48
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Originally Posted by ICM
True enough - but there will now be fewer transport aircraft in the fleet so there may not be slots for everyone in the near term. (Has the Atlas fleet reached its planned establishment? And is its aircraft/crew ratio the same as on the C-130? All the boring backstage detail that will affect such transfers.)
You are ignoring the current RAF aircrew shortage caused by a disfunctional training and selection system. The 47 Sqn crews will be very welcome gap fillers.
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Old 18th Jun 2023, 11:54
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True enough - but there will now be fewer transport aircraft in the fleet so there may not be slots for everyone in the near term. (Has the Atlas fleet reached its planned establishment? And is its aircraft/crew ratio the same as on the C-130? All the boring backstage detail that will affect such transfers.)
There is nothing to say they can only convert to Atlas.
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