US manages to aquire a Russian Sa-22 Greyhound Missile system.
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US manages to aquire a Russian Sa-22 Greyhound Missile system.
Flown out of Libya in a C-17 after being captured.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...pantsir-libya/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/hisutto...ured-in-libya/
https://www.popularmechanics.com/mil...pantsir-libya/
https://www.forbes.com/sites/hisutto...ured-in-libya/
Last edited by NutLoose; 6th Feb 2021 at 15:05.
Is the guarantee still valid?
Of course the fact that UAE, a key US partner already has them for a couple of years and US tech will already have gone over them seems to get overlooked.
Think this is in keeping with US intelligence viewpoint for last 25 years, they have shelled out many $$$ to acqure SAMs, part of them and other equipment, not to study but to remove them from the open market. This feels exactly like that scenario.
Think this is in keeping with US intelligence viewpoint for last 25 years, they have shelled out many $$$ to acqure SAMs, part of them and other equipment, not to study but to remove them from the open market. This feels exactly like that scenario.
Of course the fact that UAE, a key US partner already has them for a couple of years and US tech will already have gone over them seems to get overlooked.
Think this is in keeping with US intelligence viewpoint for last 25 years, they have shelled out many $$$ to acqure SAMs, part of them and other equipment, not to study but to remove them from the open market. This feels exactly like that scenario.
Think this is in keeping with US intelligence viewpoint for last 25 years, they have shelled out many $$$ to acqure SAMs, part of them and other equipment, not to study but to remove them from the open market. This feels exactly like that scenario.
Oman / Jordan / Algeria are all reputed to have splashed out as well as UAE so that is UK/US/France/Israel all getting a good look and taking the apart. Give Intelligence service some credit.
You mean you don't think that at least one, maybe more, fully working model has not been in US hands for a long time. Bit remiss of working with an Ally if that hasn't happened within months of the 1st batch arriving.
Oman / Jordan / Algeria are all reputed to have splashed out as well as UAE so that is UK/US/France/Israel all getting a good look and taking the apart. Give Intelligence service some credit.
Oman / Jordan / Algeria are all reputed to have splashed out as well as UAE so that is UK/US/France/Israel all getting a good look and taking the apart. Give Intelligence service some credit.
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Salute!
Don't forget there's the Nellis ranges where we fly Red Flag and do other things, and they can always use actual "threat" systems. Back in the day I saw several threats on my RHAW that were not Soviet bloc systems. Some really surprised me, but then we practiced sometimes with other country assets in the air and on the ground, most common were the Canadians and NATO folks.
Around here, the F-35's RHAW is so good that it discards cheap threat simulators and just presents the "real" ones on your display.
Gums sends...
Don't forget there's the Nellis ranges where we fly Red Flag and do other things, and they can always use actual "threat" systems. Back in the day I saw several threats on my RHAW that were not Soviet bloc systems. Some really surprised me, but then we practiced sometimes with other country assets in the air and on the ground, most common were the Canadians and NATO folks.
Around here, the F-35's RHAW is so good that it discards cheap threat simulators and just presents the "real" ones on your display.
Gums sends...
Salute!
Don't forget there's the Nellis ranges where we fly Red Flag and do other things, and they can always use actual "threat" systems. Back in the day I saw several threats on my RHAW that were not Soviet bloc systems. Some really surprised me, but then we practiced sometimes with other country assets in the air and on the ground, most common were the Canadians and NATO folks.
Around here, the F-35's RHAW is so good that it discards cheap threat simulators and just presents the "real" ones on your display.
Gums sends...
Don't forget there's the Nellis ranges where we fly Red Flag and do other things, and they can always use actual "threat" systems. Back in the day I saw several threats on my RHAW that were not Soviet bloc systems. Some really surprised me, but then we practiced sometimes with other country assets in the air and on the ground, most common were the Canadians and NATO folks.
Around here, the F-35's RHAW is so good that it discards cheap threat simulators and just presents the "real" ones on your display.
Gums sends...
Salute!
Well, West, I actually got to sit in a Flogger back in early 80's in the Zoo.
The most surprising thing to me at those Red Flags was the possiblity of strange adversary planes, as well as those "friendly" RHAW warnings.
Gums sends...
Well, West, I actually got to sit in a Flogger back in early 80's in the Zoo.
The most surprising thing to me at those Red Flags was the possiblity of strange adversary planes, as well as those "friendly" RHAW warnings.
Gums sends...